Reflexes and Input Generation

Human Reaction Time

The impact of input lag is compounded by what goes on before we even react. As soon as an image requiring a response hits your eyes, it will take somewhere between 150ms and 300ms to translate that into action. Average human response time to visual stimulus is about 200ms (0.2 seconds) for young adults, which is a long time compared to how quickly games can respond to input. But with this built-in handicap, when fast response to what's happening on screen is required, it is helpful to claim every advantage possible (especially for relative geezers like us).

Human response time is mitigated by the fact that we are also capable of learning, anticipation and extrapolation. In "practicing," a.k.a. playing a game, we can learn to predict future frames from current state for very small time slices to compensate for our response time. Our previous responses to input and the results that followed can also factor in to our future responses. This is part of the learning curve, especially for FPS games. When input lag is below a reasonable threshold, we are able to compensate without issue (and, in fact, do not perceive the input lag at all).

The larger input lag gets, the harder it gets to do something like aim at a moving target. Our expectation of the effect our input should have is different from what we see. This gets into something that combines reaction time and proprioception (reception of self produced stimulus). I'm not a psychologist, but I would love to see some studies done on how much input lag people can compensate for, where it starts to be uncomfortable (where it just "feels" wrong) and when it becomes an obviously visible phenomenon. In digging around the net, I've seen a few game developers conjecture that the threshold is about 100 milliseconds, but I haven't found any actual data on the subject. At the same time, 100 milliseconds (or maybe something like 1/2 reaction time?) seems a pretty reasonable hypothesis to me.

The Input Pipeline

As it is key in most games, we'll examine the case of the mouse when it comes to input. As soon as a mouse is moved, we have a delay. The mouse must begin by detecting this movement. Sorting out how responsive a mouse is these days is incredibly clouded by horrendous terminology. As understanding how a mouse works is important in groking it's impact on input lag, we'll dissect Logitech's specs and try to get some good information on exactly what's going on.

There are three key numbers in the reported specifications of Logitech mice we'll look at: megapixels/second, maximum speed, DPI, and reports/second. For the Logitech G9x high end gaming mouse, this is: 9 MP/s, 150 inches/second, 5000 DPI, and 1000 reports/second. Other gaming and good quality mice can do 500 to 1000 reports/second and have lower DPI and MP/s stats.

The first stat, megapixels/second, is important in how fast the mouse sensor itself can collect movement data. Optical and laser mice detect movement by taking pictures of the surface they are on and comparing the difference in images many times every second. To really understand how fast the mouse takes pictures (and thus how fast it can detect and calculate movement in units called "counts"), we would need to know how many pixels per frame the image is. Our guess is that it can't be larger than 17x17 based on its maximum speed rating (though it might be more like 12x12 if it needs to generate two frames for every count rather than reusing frames from the previous calculation). It'd be great if they listed this data anywhere, but we are left guessing based on other stats at this point.

Next up is DPI, or dots per inch. 5000 for the G9x. DPI is sort of a misrepresentation as the real specification should be in CPI (counts per inch). As it is, the number can be considered maximum DPI if each count moves the cursor one pixel (or dot). Under MS Windows, with no ballistics applied at the default pointer speed, DPI = CPI. Decreasing pointer speed means moving one dot for more than one count, and increasing pointer speed means moving more than one dot for every count. Of course with ballistics, talking about DPI as related to the mouse doesn't make any sense: moving the mouse faster or slower changes the number of dots moved per count dynamically. Because of this, we'll talk about CPI for accuracy sake, and consider that mouse manufacturers intend to use the terms interchangeably (despite the fact that they are not).

CPI is the number of steps the mouse can count within one inch; 1 / CPI inches is the smallest distance in inches the mouse is able to measure as a movement. The full benefit of a high definition mouse is realized when one count is less than or equal to one "dot," which is possible in games (with sensitivity sliders) and in windows if you decrease your mouse speed (though going to something with an odd cadence could cause problems).

Thus, when you tell your 5000 "DPI" mouse to run at 200 "DPI", it would be nice if it still reported 5000 CPI yet and allowed the driver to handle scaling the data down (or performing ballistics on raw data). For this example, we would only move the cursor one dot (one unit on the screen) every 25 counts. But the easy way out is it maintain a 1:1 ratio of counts to dots and drop your actual counts per inch down to 200. This provides no accuracy advantage (though with a fixed sensor speed it does increase maximum velocity and acceleration tolerance). And again it would be helpful if mouse makers could actually tell us what they are doing.

Since the Logitech G9x can do 150 inches/second maximum movement speed at 200 CPI, we know how many counts it must generate per second (though Logitech doesn't make it clear that the maximum speed and acceleration can only happen at the lowest CPI, it only makes sense with the math). The reported specifications indicate that the G9x can do about 30000 counts per second (150 inches in one second at 200 counts per inch). This is consistent with a 9 megapixel/second speed in that such a sensor could collect about 30000 17x17 frames every second based on this data.

After looking at all that, we can say that our Logitech G9x mouse is capable of detecting movement of between 1/5000th and 1/200th of an inch (depending on the selected CPI) about every 33.3 microseconds (these are 1/1000ths of a millisecond) after the movement happens. That's pretty freaking fast. Other mice can be much slower, but even cutting the speed in half won't affect hugely affect latency (though it will affect the maximum speed at which the mouse can be moved without problem).

Once the mouse has generated a count (or several) we need to send that data to the computer over USB. Counts are aggregated into groups called reports. USB is limited to 1000 Hz polling, so the 1000 reports/second maximum of the G9x makes sense: USB limits the transmission rate here. For those interested, to actually achieve 150 inches per second at 200 CPI, the mouse would need to be able to send about 30 counts per report at 1000 reports per second. This seems reasonable, but it'd be great if someone with USB engineering experience could give us some feedback and let us know for sure.

So, let's say that we've moved our mouse about a couple dozen microseconds before a report is sent. In this case, we've actually got to wait the whole millisecond for that data to be sent to the PC (because the count can't be generated fast enough to be included in the current report). So despite the very fast sensor in the mouse, we are transmission bound and our first "large" delay is on the order of single digit milliseconds. Other mice (like the Logitech G5 I'm using right now) may generate 500 reports per second, while the slowest speed we can expect is 127 reports/second. This can mean a 1ms - 8ms delay in input getting from the motion of the mouse to the computer.

Most gamers use halfway decent mice these days, so we can expect that latency is more like 2ms to 4ms for most wired USB mouse users and 1ms for gamers with higher end mice. This delay can't be cut down to anything less than 1ms until USB 2.0 is replaced by something faster. We'll ignore any cable (or any other wire) delay, as this will only add something on the order of nanoseconds to transmission time.

The input lag from a good mouse, on it's own, is in not perceivable to humans, but remember that this is all part of a larger picture. And now it's on to the software.

Index Parsing Input in Software and the CPU Limit
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  • DerekWilson - Friday, July 17, 2009 - link

    I agree that with modern LCD panels ghosting is not as large an issue and color (depending on backlight) and contrast (depending on panel) are much better these days as well.

    Refresh rate is the only real outstanding issue these days (imo). And the only 120Hz display I saw was a bit over saturated / over bright and not high enough contrast.
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  • jkostans - Saturday, July 18, 2009 - link

    I have yet to see an LCD without ghosting, it may be minor but it's still annoying. And even the 120Hz LCDs supposedly still have measurable input lag regardless of the non-existent ghosting. LCDs are still a downgrade as far as I'm concerned. Reply
  • DerekWilson - Sunday, July 19, 2009 - link

    Well you can actually see how much (or little) ghosting there would be in our high speed footage... even the advertised latencies on the 3007WFP are pretty bad compared to most panels these days (especially TN panels). Despite that there were only a few cases where we could see ghosting take a whole frame (and it never seemed to take more than a whole frame).

    We should test more panels with high speed cameras and see what happens...
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  • Freeseus - Thursday, July 16, 2009 - link

    I feel like there is a HUGE section of delay missing from this article. Perhaps it was chosen specifically not to be included because rigorous testing/comparison would have to be performed in order to show any sort of suggested "average" numbers. Either way, I feel it should have been addressed... even if it were just at the end of the article.

    I'm referring to the added delay of wireless mice.

    Aside from the added delay of transmitting all the mouse action to the receiver, the biggest issue is the inconsistencies of mouse performance and precision. I'm sure there's a direct correlation between this and the battery. I'm referring specifically to the amount of battery used up in order for the mouse to broadcast continuously at extremely high intervals to insure precise movement. But obviously this includes any issue where the battery needs to be recharged as well. And on top of that, the mouse seems to be non-responsive occasionally during use. Completely unacceptable in a work or 'twitch gaming' environment.

    Anyhow, it would have been nice to see this addressed because many people make the argument that wireless mice are better. And when it comes to FPS gaming or even work, I can't think of a reason not to have a wired mouse. Do I really need to have that accuracy all the time. Yes.
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  • DerekWilson - Thursday, July 16, 2009 - link

    I agree that the current state of wireless mice is generally pretty poor ... though I've never used a wireless mouse targeted at gaming (gaming mice were the first optical mice I was able to use without mousing too quickly for the sensor even during desktop use).

    Testing wireless mice is definitely something worth looking into.
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  • Vidmar - Friday, July 17, 2009 - link

    What about PS/2 mice? Are they better or worse than USB? Reply
  • DerekWilson - Friday, July 17, 2009 - link

    PS/2 mice are slower ... iirc they come in at about 100Hz (10ms). Reply
  • Vidmar - Monday, July 20, 2009 - link

    Really?? My old PS/2 MS Wheel Optical Mouse v1.1 is currently running at 200Mhz. IE: 200 reports/second. I've never felt like it doesn't keep up in any game. Reply
  • lopri - Thursday, July 16, 2009 - link

    I'm loving this article and chewing threw every page right now. Just wanted to say thank you for such in-depth analysis as is rarely found elsewhere. Reply
  • aguilpa1 - Thursday, July 16, 2009 - link

    Lots of variables that we never consider when trying to do fast gaming. I would be curious how much lag is in a racing sim like GRID or Colin McCrae DIRT. Those are intense graphics games and demand the fastest everything to keep you from going in the ditch. I have noticed I compensate at times by estimating when to start turning before the turn arrives. Reply

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