Last year's launch of AMD's FX processors was honestly disappointing. The Bulldozer CPU cores that were bundled into each Zambezi chip were hardly power efficient and in many areas couldn't significantly outperform AMD's previous generation platform. Look beyond the direct AMD comparison and the situation looked even worse. In our conclusion to last year's FX-8150 review I wrote the following:

"Single threaded performance is my biggest concern, and compared to Sandy Bridge there's a good 40-50% advantage the i5 2500K enjoys over the FX-8150. My hope is that future derivatives of the FX processor (perhaps based on Piledriver) will boast much more aggressive Turbo Core frequencies, which would do wonders at eating into that advantage."

The performance advantage that Intel enjoyed at the time was beyond what could be erased by a single generation. To make matters worse, before AMD could rev Bulldozer, Intel already began shipping Ivy Bridge - a part that not only increased performance but decreased power consumption as well. It's been a rough road for AMD over these past few years, but you have to give credit where it's due: we haven't seen AMD executing this consistently in quite a while. As promised we've now had multiple generations of each platform ship from AMD. Brazos had a mild update, Llano paved the way for Trinity which is now shipping, and around a year after Zambezi's launch we have Vishera: the Piledriver based AMD FX successor.

At a high level, Vishera swaps out the Bulldozer cores from Zambezi and replaces them with Piledriver. This is the same CPU core that is used in Trinity, but it's optimized for a very different purpose here in Vishera. While Trinity had to worry about working nicely in a laptop, Vishera is strictly a high-end desktop/workstation part. There's no on-die graphics for starters. Clock speeds and TDPs are also up compared to Trinity.

CPU Specification Comparison
CPU Manufacturing Process Cores Transistor Count Die Size
AMD Vishera 8C 32nm 8 1.2B 315mm2
AMD Zambezi 8C 32nm 8 1.2B 315mm2
Intel Ivy Bridge 4C 22nm 4 1.4B 160mm2
Intel Sandy Bridge E (6C) 32nm 6 2.27B 435mm2
Intel Sandy Bridge E (4C) 32nm 4 1.27B 294mm2
Intel Sandy Bridge 4C 32nm 4 1.16B 216mm2
Intel Lynnfield 4C 45nm 4 774M 296mm2
Intel Sandy Bridge 2C (GT1) 32nm 2 504M 131mm2
Intel Sandy Bridge 2C (GT2) 32nm 2 624M 149mm2

Vishera is still built on the same 32nm GlobalFoundries SOI process as Zambezi, which means there isn't much room for additional architectural complexity without ballooning die area, and not a whole lot of hope for significantly decreasing power consumption. As a fabless semiconductor manufacturer, AMD is now at GF's mercy when it comes to moving process technology forward. It simply has to make 32nm work for now. Piledriver is a light evolution over Bulldozer, so there's actually no substantial increase in die area compared to the previous generation. Cache sizes remain the same as well, which keeps everything roughly the same. These chips are obviously much larger than Intel's 22nm Ivy Bridge parts, but Intel has a full node advantage there which enables that.

Piledriver is a bit more power efficient than Bulldozer, which enables AMD to drive Vishera's frequency up while remaining in the same thermal envelope as Zambezi. The new lineup is in the table below:

CPU Specification Comparison
Processor Codename Cores Clock Speed Max Turbo L2/L3 Cache TDP Price
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8 4.0GHz 4.2GHz 8MB/8MB 125W $199
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 8 3.6GHz 4.2GHz 8MB/8MB 125W $183
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 8 3.5GHz 4.0GHz 8MB/8MB 125W $169
AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 8 3.1GHz 4.0GHz 8MB/8MB 125W $153
AMD FX-6300 Vishera 6 3.5GHz 4.1GHz 6MB/8MB 95W $132
AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 6 3.3GHz 3.9GHz 6MB/8MB 95W $112
AMD FX-4300 Vishera 4 3.8GHz 4.0GHz 4MB/4MB 95W $122
AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 4 3.6GHz 3.8GHz 4MB/4MB 95W $101

The table above says it all. TDPs haven't changed, cache sizes haven't changed and neither have core counts. Across the board Vishera ships at higher base frequencies than the equivalent Zambezi part, but without increasing max turbo frequency (in the case of the 8-core parts). The 6 and 4 core versions get boosts to both sides, without increasing TDP. In our Trinity notebook review I called the new CPU core Bulldozed Tuned. The table above supports that characterization.

It's also important to note that AMD's pricing this time around is far more sensible. While the FX-8150 debuted at $245, the 8350 drops that price to $199 putting it around $40 less than the Core i5 3570K. The chart below shows where AMD expects all of these CPUs to do battle:

AMD's targets are similar to what they were last time: Intel's Core i5 and below. All of the FX processors remain unlocked and ship fully featured with hardware AES acceleration enabled. Most Socket-AM3+ motherboards on the market today should support the new parts with nothing more than a BIOS update. In fact, I used the same ASUS Crosshair V Formula motherboard I used last year (with a much newer BIOS) for today's review:

The Test

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Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V Gene (Intel Z77)
ASUS Crosshair V Formula (AMD 990FX)
Hard Disk: Intel X25-M SSD (80GB)
Crucial RealSSD C300
OCZ Agility 3 (240GB)
Samsung SSD 830 (512GB)
Memory: 4 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 9-9-9-20
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870 (Windows 7)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 (Windows 8)
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1200
OS: Windows 7 x64/Windows 8 Pro x64

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  • MySchizoBuddy - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    correct for your workload AMD is a better choice in speed and cost
  • Blibbax - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    Read the techreport review. Intel still comes out on top.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - link

    Don't worry AMD is going to SteamRoll Intel soon !
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - link

    NO, amd never does better. It does worse, often by a lot, and sad little cheapo SB's spank it sorry a lot of the time.
  • Mugur - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    I'm trying to find a good scenario for those desktop cpus... Cheap 8 core virtualization hosts? Video encoding? Other than that, in this "mobile" world when every desktop PC looks out of time, I don't know what you can do with them. They are obviously not good for light loads or gaming...
  • lmcd - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    The architecture makes more sense when less modules are used, i.e. the APU series. Look at how Trinity destroyed Llano, both desktop and mobile. And note that an A10+6670 is a perfect midrange gaming value.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - link

    fanboy much ? Now we have again the amd perfection. LOL

    SB smacks it down, as does nVidia. Sorry fanboy, amd has nothing that is a perfect value, especially in gaming.
  • RussianSensation - Tuesday, November 6, 2012 - link

    What are you blabbing about? You should be banned from this forum.

    While Intel's CPUs are clearly in a class of their own for high-end CPU gaming rigs, AMD's GPUs are doing very well this generation, having captured single-GPU performance crown, performance/$ and overclocking performance. The minute you said NV smacks AMD's GPU around, you lost ALL credibility.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12...

    You may want to take a look at 90% of all the games that came out in 2012 - GTX680 loses to 7970 GE (or 680 OC vs. 7970 OC). Facts must not sit well with AMD haters.
  • mayankleoboy1 - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    Nice performance predictions for Haswell and Steamroller.
    But IMHO, 15% increase for Haswell is too high and 15% for Steamroller is low.

    IMHO, more realistic expectations would be :
    Haswell 10%. probably more like 8%.
    Steamroller 20%
  • dishayu - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - link

    Steamroller 15% is straight from the horse's (AMD's) mouth and 15% for Haswell is well within reason because it's a "tock" (new architecture). So, i think 15% for both works out fine for making speculative statements at this moment.

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