Soltek K8TPro-939: Moving A64 to 939

by Wesley Fink on 10/28/2004 12:05 AM EST
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  • WT - Monday, April 11, 2005 - link

    A Soltek response in the forums:

    http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid...
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  • horsefly24 - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - link

    Here is an update to the Soltek SL-KT8 Pro motherboard to the DDR400 bios problem http://www.soltek.de/soltek/download/download_all.... Reply
  • bob661 - Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - link

    #16
    I have one of those boards but haven't tried the hothardware.com suggestion. I don't feel comfortable with cranking my HT up to 230 just to see if the damn locks work. Also, I'm going to try lowering the HT multiplier to see if that might enable the lock. I just wish Anand was a bit more precise in explaining how he got his lock to work.
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  • Schro - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

    >We suspect that this generates enough US volume
    >that Soltek must wonder what the real value of
    >a US distributor would be.

    Soltek HAD an exclusive US distributor, a company doing business as "Soltek USA". They were one of the best distributors that I have ever dealt with (sent plenty of promo packs ;)... ). They called it quits because Soltek Taiwan sold direct to the Egg, who was supposed to be purchasing from the US distributor. This undercut Soltek USA's business, etc etc. Hence, they have been gone for over a year now.
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  • Wesley Fink - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    #16 - We also tried 233 on the Soltek which also did not work.

    As for 939 reviews, the Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939 is a lower cost version of the GA-K8NSNXP-939, which we have already reviewed. Since we have already reviewed the flagship Gigabyte 939, we will not be reviewing the lower members of the same family. The same applies to the lower-featured versions of some MSI boards.

    The Asrock is based on the Uli chipset, and it's a possible review for the future. However, with PCIe boards coming, an AGP/PCI board with both sockets 754 and 939 probably won't find a slot in our review calendar.
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  • thebluesgnr - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    Another great review, thank you Wesley.

    About PCI/AGP lock:
    "However, no matter what lower ratio we chose, the highest CPU clock setting that we could achieve with stability was 228"

    Some VIA K8T800 Pro boards without working locks have PCI/AGP dividers for 233 and 266MHz "FSB". Have you tried going from 228 directly to 233 on this board?

    About that, I remember the MSI K8T Neo2 review. You wrote:
    "We have been assured that shipping K8T Neo2 boards will have working PCI/AGP locks and we are passing this information to you."
    I've seen many people complain that their boards do not have working locks; I've read this in a review (HotHardware.com):
    "From 200MHz to about 212MHz, the K8T seemed to function normally. But at speeds from 212MHz through 230MHz, the board occasionally wouldn't POST. Speeds above 230MHz consistently worked, but we weren't very confident in our particular board's overclocking ability."

    It would be great if you guys could get one of these from retail channel (and not directly from MSI) to check this out and update that review.

    Anyway, with this Soltek review there are only two socket 939 boards listed in newegg not reviewd by AnandTech: ASRock K8 Combo-Z (cheapest s939 mobo, by $31) and Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939. If you could let us know if you'll review them I'd appreciate it. ;)
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  • Gnoad - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    If there eventually is a BIOS update to this board that fixes the AGP lock, anandtech really needs to do a second review, or at least an update. This board looks like my future purchase if there ever is a updated bios. Reply
  • KrazyDawg - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    With the newer Asus motherboards, you won't have a problem with resetting the CMOS. There's an option to load defaults in the BIOS and if you're overclocking with an Asus motherboard and it fails to POST, it will reset the values to the ones previously used before you made the adjustment. Reply
  • Aikouka - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    #3, that floppy location is a pain, because if you ever have to get to the BIOS reset jumper, it makes it a lot harder, especially if you have a large case. I have a Thermaltake Xaser III V2000A, and it's a fairly large case. So a lot of my cables are stretched as far as they can go (especially from the PCI IDE card) and the floppy cable is no exception. At one point, I wanted to reset the bios, because the board was acting funny, and this was made extremely difficult by the location of the floppy connector and the bios reset jumper's location. One of the two should be moved to allow easier access. Also, the front panel connectors (Power switch, etc.) are below that, putting even more tight cables in the way.

    Looking at the picture, the JBAT jumper is located right beside the floppy cable, making it a pain to work with anyway.

    Just like on the SL-K8ANE2-GR the purple doesn't suit it very well.

    Soltek is really good with customer support, though. I was having problems with my board and they even sent me a beta BIOS to try out. Responses came back within 3 hours (usually around 1 hour.)

    Wesley, I don't know chip prices off-hand or anything, but I can't see how VIA's solution would add a great cost to the board when Chaintech sells a VIA ENVY pci sound card, which retails for $25 (retail) on newegg.
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  • UnderScore - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    Wesley,
    I like that AT includes content creation & encoding tests and I realize that games are popular repeatable ways to stress test a system. Perhaps these MB reviews could be less focused on game performance and more on the MB's subsystems? Why not prove that the Gigabit LAN will be slower on the PCI bus rather than guessing that it will likely be slower. Am I to assume that USB, Firewire, Onboard digital I/O etc by default are all working perfectly if they are not mentioned? Testing & reporting of such items would make AT's testing methodolgy more balanced since just like #4 & #9 mentioned, not everyone is an overclocker & similarly not everyone plays games regularly (esp FPS).
    In closing, I thank you for all the work that you do & I hope you take this constructively as I had not intended to slam you or AT.
    Thanks,
    James
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  • manno - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    Son of a $@#!

    Any way what the heck is up with the Halo #'s? Is this so shady under the table stuff between MS, or Bungie, and nvidia? If so that sucks, and I hope that we don't see anymore of it in the future. Any info on that?

    -manno
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  • manno - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

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  • bob661 - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    > In fact the majority of PC users are not
    > overclockers.

    Very true. And the majority of PC users have no idea who Anand is. Online reviews are mostly read by PC users in the know or those that want to be in the know. The average PC user has no clue about these review websites and heads down Best Buy when it's time to purchase a new computer.
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  • PrinceGaz - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    Last page, second paragraph- "With 2.6GHz as a target, it is easy to see that we would need a 289 setting for the 3500+,"...

    That should be 3000+. The rest of that sentence is correct.
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  • Myrandex - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    typo: We suspect that the answer has to do with the cist difference between the VIA and Realtek solutions

    Also, on the first page a picture doesn't load.
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  • Omega215D - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    I know I posted this before but why is there no news on the Elitegroup's Dual PCIe (for graphics) with an AGP Express port on the bottom? This should appeal to those into "future-proofing" by including both old and new. Of course it'll be on a 915 chipset..... Reply
  • Boonesmi - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    hopefully they will have quick bios update that fixes the agp/pci lock (i dont really care about 4 dimms)... if they get it fixed quick it will probably be my next board :)

    newegg has an eta of 11/8/2004 which is about when ill be buying, so make sure you update this review if the agp/pci lock gets fixed
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  • Beenthere - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    While a BIOS upgrade will likely fix the AGP lock and (4) DIMM 2T issues, I doubt either is a BIG issue for most PC users. Yes overclockers may have an issue with the AGP lock and no doubt it will be corrected, but not everyone is an overcloker. In fact the majority of PC users are not overclockers. It's OK to point out the AGP lock and (4) DIMM issues for those who care, but it ain't worth getting an ulcer over. From the review it sounds like these are life or death features, which they are not.

    In regards to PCI-e Mobo reviews, the results are going to mirror AGP Mobos as the nF4 chipset is just an nF3 with PCI-e instead of AGP graphics. The only PCI-e Mobos that will show any major difference from a similar nF3 or K8T800 PRO Mobo are the SLI dual graphics card versions. If you're looking for one of these you better have real deep pockets and be willing to wait awhile.
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  • MDE - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    Why do you guys keep whining about floppy port location? Honestly I think the bottom of the board is a pretty good location, especially since I almost never use a floppy drive (just for RAID drivers). It's easy to get at when you do need a floppy drive plugged in and doesn't interfere with anything else, helping to avoid the tangle of cables around the right side of the board that's so common with "properly" laid out boards. Reply
  • Gnoad - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    Alot of us still want AGP. I'm sick and tired of mobos being manufactured without the most important part functional: the agp lock. Nforce3 150 pissed me off, and we have it here again. I really don't want to use the k8n neo, so this is a big dissapointment to me. Reply
  • SpaceRanger - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    I'm sick and tired of the AGP released boards.. Gimmie PCI-X for A64 and I'll be impressed.. Reply

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