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Nothing odd about a single slot HD6850. The HD4850 came with a single slot cooler as the reference design, and the HD6850 uses less power. Any HD6850 single slot should be more effective than a 4850 single slot card, and the HD4850 wasn't a particularly bad card noise wise (temps were high though).Reply
I have a silent 4850 with a similarly massive heatpipe arrangement. It's hard for me to really call it a true silent card, as at load, you NEED a fan blowing on the heatsink. Without the fan, were talking temps well over 100c.
However, I just attached an 80mil fan to a rheostat and crank it up when its gaming time, and can turn the fan all the way off for normal use. I imagine that 6850 is going to need a similar arrangement.Reply
I had a standard 4850 single slot (I think ATI reference). Indeed it was able to run silently when not doing stressful gaming. I modded its bios to ramp down the fan and it was hardly audible over the standard case case.
I think a fan based solution is better, because at least it can be properly cooled under stress, and silent when it's not. My 4850 routinely got to 100C temps while gaming with its fan going at 100%.Reply
I slapped an Accelero S1 on my 4850, then zip tied a 120mm fan running at 500rpm. Worked like a charm. Granted, taking roughly 3 slots, it isn't for everyone. But it ran cool and was never audible.
I have no doubts that it should be possible to cool a 6850 passively. If you have any doubts, It should be super easy to add a silent fan.Reply
I used to run 2 Gigabytes silent edition in Xfire and it was not so bad heat wise. True, you need good ventilation but many full tower case nowadays are equipped with 200 mm + fans which provide quite a bit of air flow without producing overwhelming noise. Those where not single slots and they had a pretty big heat sinks. Even with reduced air flow, they sill worked quite well. All in all, that is certainly one of the good GPU Gigabyte made but it wasn't widely sold due to the fact that it was a bit of an odd players and also because silent edition are always more expensive then their regular version.Reply
Heck a lot of motherboards that came out within the past couple of years don't even support a PCI slot anymore. Even your cheapest motherboards that have came out within the past few years as at least one PCIe slot. Doesn't make much sense to support a PCI GPU anything anymore considering PCI is a big bottleneck on even modern budget GPU's and now there are intergrated graphics on cpu/gpu's solutions that are even faster then some modern budget PCIe graphic cards now.Reply
It's mentioned in the article why the PCI version was made: industrial (and perhaps some enterrpise) level usage. To me, it sounds like you're making your assumption based solely on the consumer market.
Industry and enterprise tend to have some simpler and somewhat more cost-sensitive needs. I would think a PCI design would be easier and cheaper to implement compared to PCIe. For example, less runs on the MB for connections (PCIe x16 slot has a lot of contacts); smaller footprint on the MB (x16 slot is overall longer than typical PCI.)Reply
I have a D510MO that only comes with PCI slot, the integrated graphics card is incredibly bad, for every single thing. If I can get my hands in some dedicated graphics card for 30-50$ and It would solve all the problems with youtube HD, hulu and 1080p content of any kind, plus let me play some old games, I will buy it right away.Reply
Pair a passive HD6XXX with a 45W TDP Llano and a chunky heatsink and you could have a nice silent runner on your hands.. full passive without feeling gimped. Word has it that Llano will be hybrid crossfire compatible with Norther Island GPUs, so it's could be a rather impressive build all things considered.
The passive 6850 is a really interesting card, but not everyone needs a completely silent GPU, especially since most people have case fans and a PSU fan that keeps the rig from being computer silent. Why does there seem to be no middle ground between the lower end passive cards and the typical banshee card?
Take a 6950, use a similarly sized massive heatsink like the one on the 6850 with the fins spaced properly for low backpressure airflow, and toss two high quality slow and quiet 80mm fans on it. Sure it would add $20-$40 to the cost, but it'd be worth it to some of us.Reply
Any news about updated "Bus only" powered PCIe graphics cards? For purposes of: enjoying speedy graphics, while minimizing power requirements and heat output. AMD vs. nVidia options.Reply
When installed in a tower case, the passive cards appear to have the base of the heatsink located above the fins. So when the fluid in the heatpipes condenses, it will run down towards the fins instead of back towards the hot chip. Am I seeing this right? Seems backwards...Reply
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It's unfortunate nV spent their time in engineering the 550Ti on monkeying with the memory controller to make it use a round gigabyte of RAM and sound more impressive on paper (but likely with rather little real performance improvement) rather than on thermals and power consumption. The 550Ti would have been a nice one-up on the AMD 57xx/67xx series if there were passively cooled versions.
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w4rlock - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
Since when does a FirePro (V7900 or any other) have ECC memory? That would be major news, finally a competitor to the Tesla series. ReplyIan Cutress - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
My bad, I somehow misread the specifications. Article updated.Ian Reply
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Lonyo - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
Nothing odd about a single slot HD6850.The HD4850 came with a single slot cooler as the reference design, and the HD6850 uses less power. Any HD6850 single slot should be more effective than a 4850 single slot card, and the HD4850 wasn't a particularly bad card noise wise (temps were high though). Reply
Cygni - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
I have a silent 4850 with a similarly massive heatpipe arrangement. It's hard for me to really call it a true silent card, as at load, you NEED a fan blowing on the heatsink. Without the fan, were talking temps well over 100c.However, I just attached an 80mil fan to a rheostat and crank it up when its gaming time, and can turn the fan all the way off for normal use. I imagine that 6850 is going to need a similar arrangement. Reply
hechacker1 - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
I had a standard 4850 single slot (I think ATI reference). Indeed it was able to run silently when not doing stressful gaming. I modded its bios to ramp down the fan and it was hardly audible over the standard case case.I think a fan based solution is better, because at least it can be properly cooled under stress, and silent when it's not. My 4850 routinely got to 100C temps while gaming with its fan going at 100%. Reply
Drag0nFire - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
I slapped an Accelero S1 on my 4850, then zip tied a 120mm fan running at 500rpm. Worked like a charm. Granted, taking roughly 3 slots, it isn't for everyone. But it ran cool and was never audible.I have no doubts that it should be possible to cool a 6850 passively. If you have any doubts, It should be super easy to add a silent fan. Reply
Wurmer - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
I used to run 2 Gigabytes silent edition in Xfire and it was not so bad heat wise. True, you need good ventilation but many full tower case nowadays are equipped with 200 mm + fans which provide quite a bit of air flow without producing overwhelming noise. Those where not single slots and they had a pretty big heat sinks. Even with reduced air flow, they sill worked quite well. All in all, that is certainly one of the good GPU Gigabyte made but it wasn't widely sold due to the fact that it was a bit of an odd players and also because silent edition are always more expensive then their regular version. ReplySteelCity1981 - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
Heck a lot of motherboards that came out within the past couple of years don't even support a PCI slot anymore. Even your cheapest motherboards that have came out within the past few years as at least one PCIe slot. Doesn't make much sense to support a PCI GPU anything anymore considering PCI is a big bottleneck on even modern budget GPU's and now there are intergrated graphics on cpu/gpu's solutions that are even faster then some modern budget PCIe graphic cards now. ReplyStahn Aileron - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
It's mentioned in the article why the PCI version was made: industrial (and perhaps some enterrpise) level usage. To me, it sounds like you're making your assumption based solely on the consumer market.Industry and enterprise tend to have some simpler and somewhat more cost-sensitive needs. I would think a PCI design would be easier and cheaper to implement compared to PCIe. For example, less runs on the MB for connections (PCIe x16 slot has a lot of contacts); smaller footprint on the MB (x16 slot is overall longer than typical PCI.) Reply
haplo602 - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
actualy it's a mighty fine card for AGP only boards :-) brings in the latest tech while still being enough for such a low end system.how much bandwidth do you think does a low res game need ? also GPGPU is plenty for this. get a board with 5 PCI slots and there you go :-)
basicaly I could stick 6 GPUs into my workstation with that ... Reply
Taft12 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link
If you're putting a current-gen video card in an AGP system, you have no interest in the "latest tech" ReplyGauner - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
What about atom boards?I have a D510MO that only comes with PCI slot, the integrated graphics card is incredibly bad, for every single thing. If I can get my hands in some dedicated graphics card for 30-50$ and It would solve all the problems with youtube HD, hulu and 1080p content of any kind, plus let me play some old games, I will buy it right away. Reply
Taft12 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link
If only you had heard of ION before buying that board! ReplyAndrew Rockefeller - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
Pair a passive HD6XXX with a 45W TDP Llano and a chunky heatsink and you could have a nice silent runner on your hands.. full passive without feeling gimped. Word has it that Llano will be hybrid crossfire compatible with Norther Island GPUs, so it's could be a rather impressive build all things considered.http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Hybrid-CrossFir... Reply
MrTeal - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
The passive 6850 is a really interesting card, but not everyone needs a completely silent GPU, especially since most people have case fans and a PSU fan that keeps the rig from being computer silent. Why does there seem to be no middle ground between the lower end passive cards and the typical banshee card?Take a 6950, use a similarly sized massive heatsink like the one on the 6850 with the fins spaced properly for low backpressure airflow, and toss two high quality slow and quiet 80mm fans on it. Sure it would add $20-$40 to the cost, but it'd be worth it to some of us. Reply
vailr - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
Any news about updated "Bus only" powered PCIe graphics cards?For purposes of: enjoying speedy graphics, while minimizing power requirements and heat output.
AMD vs. nVidia options. Reply
provostzakharov - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link
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It's unfortunate nV spent their time in engineering the 550Ti on monkeying with the memory controller to make it use a round gigabyte of RAM and sound more impressive on paper (but likely with rather little real performance improvement) rather than on thermals and power consumption. The 550Ti would have been a nice one-up on the AMD 57xx/67xx series if there were passively cooled versions.nV's partners don't seem to care, they'd rather be silly about hyper-overclocking the 550Ti (in a fruitless attempt to make it compete with the 68xx series) than sit down and think about how they could reduce power consumption and make a quieter card. Reply
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vnt - Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - link
can I have the bios/firmware of a Gigabyte HD6770 (GV-R677SL-1GD) ?please send to Trevor.Vuong@gmail.com Reply