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  • sciwizam - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    Didn't you guys review the Galaxy Tab 10.1 with LTE? Can you include those battery numbers? Reply
  • deputc26 - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    +1 Reply
  • tat tvam asi - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    What are the folks at Qualcomm feeding Anandtech? Reply
  • medi01 - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    In Win8 review, with all 8 systems "that users aiming for Win 8 are likely to buy" there wasn't a single with AMD CPU.
    When kindly asked "WTF dudes?" answer was "well, if you donate for it, I might be so kind to review it, if you behave".

    So...
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  • MrSpadge - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    You sound like a mad troll there.

    The guy doing the tests didn't have an AMD system at hand, and clearly said so in response to the comments. What could possibly be wrong about this? And what kind of miracles do you expect from this preview version? Rest assured that if there were any, AMD would already have told us about it. Case closed.
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  • mcnabney - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    The point was more on the line of "what kind of person does a broad hardware review and doesn't have a single AMD system?". Reply
  • scottaw - Monday, March 26, 2012 - link

    For tablets? Everyone. It's not Anandtech's fault that AMD is nowhere to be found (although in truth, you could say the same for any android tablet). Reply
  • phoenix_0001 - Monday, March 26, 2012 - link

    is it retina display? Reply
  • mavere - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    My god, 25.3 hours as a hotspot. Except for the whole data caps thing, that's mind-blowingly amazing. Reply
  • Fleeb - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    Yes, amazing that you buy an iPad powered with a 42.5Wh battery, and you just turn it into a hotspot. Reply
  • doobydoo - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Do you have to 'only' do something to benefit from it? It has the best normal battery life anyway, excluding the iPad 2. Just another benefit. Reply
  • seapeople - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Wait... so you mean there was an easier way to do it rather than for me to buy a 4G Ipad for 500 and WiFi Ipad for 800? I generally keep the 4G Ipad turned off and use it as a hotspot so I can get better battery life on my WiFi Ipad.

    If only I could have it all with just one Ipad.
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  • mcnabney - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Verizon doesn't have a cap and they don't throttle. If you use more you move to a higher bucket of GB. They will even back date you so you don't pay a per GB overage. Might as well get used to it. Wireless network capacity is a scarce commodity. You don't complain that electricty, water, or natural gas are generally metered (even though there are still plenty of people that have unlimited for those too). Reply
  • gorash - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Amount it takes to charge? Reply
  • dagamer34 - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Yeah, I'd love to see the amount of time it takes to charge using the AC adapter, Mac USB port, and PC USB port from 0-100%. I suspect that standard spec 500mA are so pitifully slow at charging that they aren't useful anymore. I never bothered using the AC adapter with my previous iPads but I might have to this time. Reply
  • UpSpin - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    0.5A * 5V = 2.5W -> 2.5W * 80% efficiency = 2W -> 42.5Whr/2W = 21 hours --> charging via normal USB takes one day. Charging via 1A charger probably half a day.

    But I'm also curious to see real life numbers.
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  • cserwin - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    iPads of any generation won't charge at .5A. The included adapter is 2A. I charged from 8% this weekend, it was about 6 hours.

    Charge time is the only drawback I have experienced from upgrading from the first gen.
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  • Fanfoot - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Agreed. Sounds like this is one of the big negatives of the new display and the corresponding 70% increase in battery size. Also, is there any way to speed up the battery charging process? Like using an Innergie 3A/15W wall charger instead of the supplied Apple 2A/10W charger? Or does that not do anything? Reply
  • seascape - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    I had to become a member to correct that chart. It simply is incorrect.

    I own an ipad 3 32g 4g Lte Verizon model and I properly calibrated my battery and I am getting 11 hours battery life with wifi enabled. Please correct your data and run a proper test next time.
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  • stevessvt - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    With he screen turned off the entire time? Reply
  • Mordecai Walfish - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    You do not reserve the right to correct a controlled test like this with your subjective experience with whatever settings you have enabled/disabled on your personal iPad.

    I know you're probably smug as hell now that you have that shiny new iThing in your sweaty little mitts, but try not to be a self-righteous jerk because you think 'everyone else is doing it wrong.' Obviously.
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  • B3an - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    He cant help it, all members of the iCult become iSmug and that then makes them iJerks. I call it the Jobs Effect. Reply
  • KoolAidMan1 - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    Another award winning B3an post Reply
  • rpmurray - Monday, March 26, 2012 - link

    I agree, he is as dumb as a post. Reply
  • doobydoo - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    I doubt you recreated the web browsing test that Anandtech uses. It's a particularly 'harsh' battery life test which probably explains why you saw better battery life. Reply
  • euler007 - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    "The chart above is our revamped web browser battery life test "

    Can you imagine what a chart of random anecdotal user's experience would look like.

    Maybe you should educate yourself a bit more : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_%28computin...
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  • tayb - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    I don't understand these results. Mobile phone battery tests show tremendous drop offs when switching from wifi to LTE yet here have less than one hour. How is that possible? I expected the wifi number to greatly exceed 10 hours. With that humongous battery the wifi number is extremely disappointing. Reply
  • Mordecai Walfish - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    You must take into account the relation this has with the enhanced battery in general. The retina display uses a lot more juice, as well as the new internal hardware components. Only an hour off this battery time would likely equate to quite a bit more for the smaller, old ipad's batteries. (and even more for smaller mobile batteries) Reply
  • dvinnen - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    It's about percentages. Using LTE on a cell phone might be (just making up numbers) 20% of the power draw while on The New Ipad (stupid name) it might be only 5% of the power draw. Reply
  • UpSpin - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    the ipad 2 display consumes 2.7W, the iPad 3 display consumes 7W, the iPhone 4 display consumes 0.42W, actording to displaymate.com

    So if the LTE modem consumes an additional 0.5W (that's insane, but makes calculation easier), it maybe halfs battery life on the iPhone, but has only minor influence on the iPad 2 and almost no influence on the iPad 3.
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  • eisa01 - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    What brightness setting did you use? Reply
  • cserwin - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    +1 Reply
  • eisa01 - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    Apparently it's 200 nits as stated in the Transformer Prime review, would still be nice to know where that is on the brightness scale for a frame of reference Reply
  • asrey1975 - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Used ot own a PC tablet - Fujitsu lifebook and go over it pretty quick about 5 years ago.

    The drawcard for me was being able to write notes on it in meetings. What I later realised was that typing was quicker than writing (and you dont have to go back and convert/correct all your hand written notes). So basically a normal laptop would have done me just fine.

    When I used it as a pure tablet, all I did was surf the net and check email. Maybe now I'd add watch videos online etc. I had it for about 12mths and sold it.

    Not sure why its taken so long for tablets to get off the ground. The formfactor was available back in 2000 or so on Windows 2000 embeded etc, my housemate had one, cost about the same as iPad under $1000.

    Will I buy an iPad X - NO. Transformer Prime looks alot better deal, Keyboard +tablet, better everything, graphics chip, battery, flexibility, Android etc.

    Will other people buy it iPad 3. Sure. Apple iPad sheeple are everywhere!

    All those extra iPad 3 pixels are realy not gonig to make much difference on such a small screen I say.
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  • PeteH - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    "All those extra iPad 3 pixels are really not gonig to make much difference on such a small screen I say."

    I strongly disagree. I've never liked the way text looks on computer displays, and it impacts my reading enjoyment. Quadrupling the pixel count should drastically improve the appearance of text.

    The purpose of the resolution increase is not to increase the amount of "stuff" you can fit on screen, it's to increase the level of detail that can be displayed. At any screen size that will make a difference. Whether or not the increased display detail is something you find desirable is a different (and completely subjective) question.
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  • Greg512 - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    I do not see how you can claim the Prime has a better graphics chip. From what I have seen, the Tegra 3's graphics chip is weaker than the 'New' Ipad's. As far as CPU power is concerned, however, the Transformer Prime has a substantial lead. App performance is a different question altogether. Plus, iPad sheeple... seriously. I thought such unsubstantiated name calling went out of popularity a while ago. For the record, I do not own either tablet. I own a HP Touchpad, but would prefer either the Prime or the iPad over it. Reply
  • ufon68 - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    You gotta love ignorant people calling others sheeple. Reply
  • KoolAidMan1 - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    You are completely wrong, those small pixels make more and more a difference the closer the display is to your eyes.

    As it stands, text on my 24" and 27" 2560x1440 IPS displays look inferior to what is on the iPad. I want high PPI in all my monitors now.

    If you can't tell the difference then you should get your eyesight checked.
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  • eallan - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Wouldn't it be awesome to not be able to tell the difference? I'd save so much money! Reply
  • zorxd - Monday, March 26, 2012 - link

    Text can't look inferior on a 2560x1440 monitor for the simple reason that there are more pixels than on an iPad.
    Take any given content, say a web page, and strech it to full screen. The text will be rendered with more pixels on your IPS monitors, and therefore will be clearer by any measure.

    PPI doesn't matter, it's all about the number of pixels.
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  • dai - Monday, March 26, 2012 - link

    That is so exactly, 180 degrees wrong. 2560x1440 pixels displayed on a 50 foot screen six foot in front of you will have a very visible grain; displayed on a 10 foot screen, less so. Alternatively, 640x480 pixels on a three inch display will have much less grain than 640x48- pixels on a fourteen inch display. When it comes to the clarity of text, with crisp edges and no visible aliasing, it's all about the number of pixels per inch and distance from the eye. I'm typing this on a 27" monitor and the text quality is noticeably worse than on my iPad 3 or my iPhone 4, because the pixels are bigger Reply
  • KoolAidMan1 - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    Also, the Transformer Prime is inferior to the iPad 2 from last year, especially in graphics performance. The Tegra 3 is a dog and NVIDIA has serious catch-up to do with the Tegra 4. How do you expect it to be better than the iPad that was released last week?

    It is funny though seeing someone so ignorant and misinformed talking about "sheeple"
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  • web2dot0 - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    Are you serious? Have you seen one in person? That display is gorgeous! I'm sorry, you gotta see it to believe it. You can see a clear difference. It's not even close. As soon as I saw the iPad3 you knew right away that there's something different about the display. It looks life-like and the photos are of print-quality.

    I don't know about the Transformer Prime because I haven't seen one myself, but at least check out the thing first before you make a judgement.

    "Looks like a better deal" doesn't make it so. There's no way the battery life is better than iPad. That thing's got the biggest battery pack in the industry. If a competitor have a similar display, how can they possibly compete unless it weighs the same as well?

    Graphics chip? The A5X is the fastest in the industry. No one even comes close.

    I don't know what you smoking, but your list of "Apple pitfalls" is pretty pathetic. At least name the things that are true.
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  • EnerJi - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Anand,

    Can you confirm whether there was continuous data transfer during the 20+ hours Verizon LTE hotspot test? If so, that is incredible battery life! Makes me wonder how long next year's iPad could last with the more power efficient 28nm chipset...
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  • dreddit - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    Hi Guys I don't get the graph/chart above is this in minutes or decimels, cos otherwise the ATP(Balanced) last's for 9 hours 16 minutes. This is really wierd way of testing gear along a time axis?

    Please explain?
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  • homebredcorgi - Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - link

    It's in decimal hours. So for the ATP (Balanced), 8.76 hours is equal to 8 hours, 45 minutes, 36 seconds.

    Since 0.76*60 = 45.6 minutes and 0.6*60 = 36 seconds.
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  • ytsejam02 - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Perhaps it's just me, but IMO, > 15% drop in battery life seems "huge".

    Obviously there's always a trade-off in functionality vs performance vs battery life. Realistically, if I'm using an iPad during the day, maybe for work, the 3rd gen has even less of a chance of making it thru the day, which diminishes it's mobility.
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  • darkcrayon - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    But it's only a7% drop, I wouldn't call that "huge"... I'm assuming the iPad 2 number is for wifi and a 3G model isn't listed. Still the difference wouldnt be that great since apple listed the iPad 2 at about 9 hours for 3G. Reply
  • piroroadkill - Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - link

    Yes, but they put an enormous battery in there.

    Hint: the energy isn't all getting converted to light.

    This thing is going to roast your nuts.
    Reply

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