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  • praeses - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Videos are nice, but only when they have a transcript. Reply
  • Ratman6161 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Don't know that I need a full transcript. But a one page summary might be nice. Sometimes I glance at AT at work and I can't take the time to watch a 36 min video but would be able to read a couple of paragraph summary. Reply
  • turbobeta - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Agreed. This is worthless without a transcript or an accompanying article of some sort. Reply
  • Razorbak86 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Disagree. The video for this type of demonstration is priceless, with or without transcription or an accompanying article. Reply
  • sxr7171 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    Seriously. I think the same amount of information is transferred in reading for 1 minute or 15 minute video. I really dislike this trend of videos only. I think people should have the choice. Reply
  • Ditiris - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    So when will the video of the mini ITX build be up? Reply
  • pbol01 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Granularity... :S
    But good work again AnandTech :-)
    Reply
  • pbol01 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Forgot to say...
    One thing that annoys me with ASUS as well as all the other hardware manufacturers, is the fact they rarely update the clunky software they make. I don't understand why they don't keep the same code base across the devices, and then activate or deactivate functions according to hardware specs. So they e.g. could update UI without having to roll specific version out for each device. But maybe that's just because I'm ignorant about the architecture of the software vs. hardware...
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  • Sabresiberian - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Nice job, good to have reference ideas from a pro source like Asus and JJ, as most of us have been exposed to overclocking on a pretty much self-taught level, getting our start with advice from other self-taught people, and teaching yourself can give good real-world experiences, but also leave gaps in your knowledge.

    It did feel a little rushed to me, but then those that are more deeply involved and more practiced at OCing probably thought it dragged, lol. I can always refer back to it anyway.

    Thanks!
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  • MrSpadge - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    36 minutes?! Well.. that seems thorough. But I have no idea if there's anything in there which is worth watching the video for. I can't quickly glance over the content like I can with written articles.. which I prefer for such topics. Reply
  • MrSpadge - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    "But I have no idea if there's anything in there which is worth watching the video for"
    The first few minutes did not.
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  • gmjohnson51@verizon.net - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - link

    Download video, extract audio, run through speech to text, read ... great idea! Reply
  • RAWRscary - Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - link

    It's mostly just the asus rep rambling on about maximizing performance... Reply
  • sovan07 - Thursday, July 04, 2013 - link

    hi guyz...i m just new in anandtech ,,.i want to do bechmarkings & if some1 guides me...from beginning then it wll be really helpful for me...though i live in kolkata...if any1 from there plz knock me.... Reply
  • Stuka87 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Videos are great when I am at home. But worthless to me here at work :/ Reply
  • Razorbak86 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Pro-tip: Watch it when you get home. ;) Reply
  • micksh - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    36 minutes is a lot of time to waste even at home. It's not supposed to be a movie with a story and character development, is it?

    One page with list of settings should be enough to describe overclocking and it can be read in 5 minutes max. I'm sure there are other sites that don't force you to waste 30 more minutes of your life.
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  • Arbie - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Umm, I am very impressed. I have just built a Gryphon Z87 with i5-4670K and now want to try out some of these goodies. Asus is really trying hard! After seeing this I wonder if their competition is even in the same ballpark with respect to fan control, integrated OC etc. And all this for $170! Sorry to sound like a shill - I'm not - but there it is. Reply
  • Razorbak86 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    Agreed. ASUS UEFI and AI Suite are truly world class. Reply
  • JimmiG - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    Most overclockers only need access to two options, though - VCore and multiplier.

    My Gigabyte board only has Vcore Offset or manual VCore. So I set a negative offset to -0.1V to get the right voltage when overclocked..but this causes the voltage when idle / 800 MHz to be too low. The only other option is to set a static voltage at 1.2V, which is not ideal but not a huge issue.

    Also fan control is really bad on the Gigabyte. I want to be able to set a target temp like you can with Speedfan, but all it offers is a silly "PWM Value / Temp" setting that always seem to make the fans almost stop, no matter what the temperature is.
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  • cbgoding - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    Failed at replying before...sorry for double post. If you have llc settings at your disposal, use them. They change the voltage differential of low to high load. So if you have enough voltage to maintain stability at load, but not enough at idle, then you need to decrease llc, which will drop your load voltage, and change your offset to adjust for it.

    I've got my 2500k running at 1.36v load for 4.8GHz, and idling down at .9ish at 1.6GHz, haven't had a stability issue in a year and a half.
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  • CrazyElf - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    I have to admit I'm very impressed with what Asus has done here. It seems like motherboards have seen some pretty impressive advancements over the years - hard to believe we were using a BIOS with a keyboard only and very limited just 2-3 years ago. It's just unfortunate that Haswell is well, hardly an upgrade over Sandy once the OC headroom is taken into account.

    The only feedback I have for Asus is to try to improve your tech support - it's one of those things that definitely needs work. Otherwise, keep it up.
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  • ThomasS31 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    I heard from the developer, that AIDA will push haswell most if you use only the FPU Stress test and uncheck everything else.
    That will pust the new AVX2 FMA...etc circuits to max hell. Even on stock clocks. :)
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  • cbgoding - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    If you have llc settings at your disposal, use them. They change the voltage differential of low to high load. So if you have enough voltage to maintain stability at load, but not enough at idle, then you need to decrease llc, which will drop your load voltage, and change your offset to adjust for it.

    I've got my 2500k running at 1.36v load for 4.8GHz, and idling down at .9ish at 1.6GHz, haven't had a stability issue in a year and a half.
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  • Rajinder Gill - Friday, June 14, 2013 - link

    On Haswell, we have adaptive offset, which does not touch the VID stack below the Turbo ratios. This gets around the classic offset voltage issue of affecting the entire VID stack and creating stability issues at isle. Reply
  • Rajinder Gill - Friday, June 14, 2013 - link

    *idle Reply
  • cbgoding - Friday, June 14, 2013 - link

    That's pretty awesome. Reply
  • Edkiefer - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    So is it possible to install Ai suite III on older platforms like Asus P8Z77 xxx ? Reply
  • Iketh - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - link

    video not showing up for me on latest IE... just a black box Reply
  • Razorbak86 - Friday, June 14, 2013 - link

    FWIW, it's working for me on both Firefox and IE. Reply
  • Olebrom - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - link

    I have the Z77 series from last year. Won't upgrade anytime soon. Hope they release Aisuite 3 for the Z77 series. One thing that pissed me off is that I need PWN fans for the CPU to be able to control them. The Nochtua D-14 didn't come with that. Reply
  • Anodynic - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Very helpful tutorial. Makes me feel not so bad about landing at 4.5 GHz under full load with a closed loop cooler (H100i). Things get really hot under full load after that. Reply
  • Arbie - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    I hope you were pissed at Noctua, not Asus. I have avoided Noctua fans for CPU cooling for exactly that reason. What are they thinking? Everyone does PWM on the CPU fans, and has done so for about 8 years. Noctua are good fans basically, but greatly over-hyped. And they fail to deliver on basics like this. Reply
  • Arbie - Monday, June 17, 2013 - link

    A tip for those viewing this video. The Asus sales talk implies that you get these features with the higher-end (at least) Z87 mobos. You don't. In particular, the Z87 Gryphon does not have the overclocking features shown in AI Suite III - only the Thermal Radar pages . This is a detail omitted in all the videos and presentations I've seen on this. Reply
  • UltraTech79 - Saturday, June 22, 2013 - link

    The vast majority of people do not want to watch a 36 min epic movie about overclocking. This needs to be 15 min max. Cut the convoluted BS and get to teh heart of subjects in a concise way or at least have a 1 page summery. Reply
  • jamaguy - Thursday, June 27, 2013 - link

    I agree. I would love to be able to read the article. I tried to click the "Print This Article" Button and it was not especially useful. Reply

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