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  • HumanizerDroid - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    This looks great! the use of both windows and android is a big +. Its light weight, thin and very good screen resolutions all are too. Battery life may let it down, but if it doesn't, more than likely Samsung's best product; and for that reason, its going to be expensive. Would definitely consider buying if under a grand. But i reckon £1299 maybe after a month trading £1199. A1 product this! Reply
  • apinkel - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Sounds like Samsung still has work to do on the hardware as well as the OS to OS integration from the sounds of it. Microsoft needs to get the resolution scaling right with 8.1 as well as the various other tweaks they've discussed to date.

    I think this is a good sign though. Everyone is doing what they can with what they have available to them. Progress, however imperfect, is better than not doing anything.
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  • McD - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link

    " the use of both windows and android is a big +." Why? Because they can't rustle up more than a dozen genuine tablet apps between them? How ridiculous do Android stretchies look on a 3K screen? Reply
  • Kidster3001 - Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - link

    Android apps running across different resolutions don't look all that bad. Android does it better than Apple in this regard. Reply
  • Mountainjoy - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    Trying to think of an Android App I would want to run on a tablet that does not have a better Windows alternative or could simply be done in a real web browser. Not coming up with anything. Maybe a couple games, but if that 4400HD is better then a 4000HD, then it should be capable of 1600x900 gaming. Real games, not Fruit Ninja. Reply
  • WhitneyLand - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    How about Instagram? Not on Windows 8, and last time I checked you couldn't even create an IG account via the web. Also there are lots of nice mobile games that doesn't exist for Win8. Then there are specialty apps for Home Automation and such that are far more prevalent on Android. Etc, etc. Reply
  • sheh - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    Is there a strange physical law preventing >17" and <27" monitors from having DPI > 100?

    That Asus 27" 4K monitor is the closest, but I'm still waiting for 24".
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  • Mountainjoy - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    Yeah Im scratching my head at that. 3840x2160 at 27inch just a display, $3799, 3800x1600 at 13.3inch + Intel SOC, Mobo, Ram.... and you know it's not going to get above $1500 at the low end. Desktop users are getting shafted. Reply
  • ShieTar - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Its more complicated and expensive to produce larger screens, and with any new technology this can easily come down to "too expensive" for a lot of products. We are likely looking into 500$ worth of a 13" screen here, which barely works for a high-class notebook. On the other hand, a large screen for 3k$ or more might also attract some enthusiast early adopters. A 1500$ 24" screen will most likely not find any buyer at all, so don't expect those things to come until the screen suppliers have significantly improved their high-DPI process. Reply
  • WhitneyLand - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Helpful reply ShieTar. I think one side effect will be that 4k TVs become common faster than 2k TVs did. Simply because the overall demand, scale, and breadth of usage is larger this time around. Reply
  • Hector2 - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    Whenever they don't give out pricing, you know it's going to be expensive Reply
  • Alketi - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    This is the retina display you've been waiting for. Effective 1600x900 at 1/4 resolution, which is a much more productive number.

    What's the battery life, and will it run Ubuntu? :)
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  • Gadgety - Saturday, June 22, 2013 - link

    If it could run Android, and function as a phone, dual booting could make sense, provided that there was and energy efficient set up, which I assume VM isn't. Reply
  • zoxo - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    If this thing would get a good active digitizer for proper note taking and drawing stuff, it'd be amazing! Reply
  • Alfinch - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    It has an S-Pen, which is effectively the same thing. Reply
  • WiNG_C - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Does the S-Pen support WinTab though? Any word on the preassure levels it can recognize? Reply
  • Alfinch - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    1024 pressure levels going by other s-pen devices, so the same as the Surface Pro. In the conference I seem to recall them mentioning it worked in Photoshop, so yes, in that case it's fully compatible with Windows too. Reply
  • WiNG_C - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Excellent news then. Better pen support than the Vaio Duo 13, which certainly sets it high on my list. On the other hand it -seems- to be missing a couple features though, like GPS and SIM card slot. Parhaps those were simply not mentioned on the conference, although I have not seen any SIM card slot on any pictures yet. Also, wish they allow certain customization options to get an i7 Haswell in it Reply
  • Alfinch - Monday, June 24, 2013 - link

    There is a standard SD slot on the inner hinge mechanism - it's quite well hidden. No news on GPS though. Reply
  • rlopin - Monday, August 05, 2013 - link

    WiNG_C was asking about a SIM card, not an SD card. Two very different things. I have read many reviews and not one has mentioned support for a SIM card yet. Reply
  • zoxo - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Yeah, noticed that in the event blog, but this info is missing from this article. Now I'm really interested! Reply
  • En_Magnus - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    This device is very tempting, but I don't like the fact that it uses mini-hdmi. I don't see why you wouldn't just use mini-displayport at that point. I have a Dell U2713hm. As far as I can tell it only accepts 1080 over hdmi, as opposed to the full 1440. Is there any way to dongle a mini-hdmi port up to a full displayport or dual-link dvi? If not I will just have to cross my fingers hoping for a Haswell Surface Pro. Reply
  • ShieTar - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Mini-HDMI supports the HDMI 1.3 spec, which can support 1600p60. Your problem lies specifically with your monitor, as DELL decided not to support the full resolution on HDMI for the U2713HM, for reasons unknown. The U2713H does support full resolution over HDMI, but comes at a significantly higher price. Reply
  • magic111 - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    This thing is actually exciting. Although I wanted to see Hd5000/ iris, this is, potentially, surface done right. Can't wait for the review. Reply
  • Bob Todd - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    We are finally getting close to fulfilling the converged device hopes and dreams that Windows 8 teased us with but failed to deliver, both due to the software not really being ready and arriving one generation too early on the hardware side. And while many of us had long suspected we'd see proper uber high res support in the next Windows release, the (otherwise oddball) quad 1600x900 resolution is as good as written confirmation from Ballmer. Like others have said, I'd love to see GT3 in this, but I can't get everything I want. I'd also like to see a transformer style form factor in the 10"-11" range with extra battery capacity in the keyboard dock. Reply
  • Ikefu - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - link

    What are the chances they'll offer more than the base i5 option? That and the mouse nub still have me leaning Sony Vaio Duo 13. I really like the thickness of the Q though. Reply
  • gxtoast - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Someone expressed their disapointment about the screen ratio ATIV Book 9 Plus being 16:9 and I have to agree. In fact, it is one of my biggest gripes about displays. Microsoft are talking up the "content creation" advantage that Windows 8 has over IOS and Android, and yet they mandate a screen ratio that is all about "content consumption". The only value of the 16:9 ratio is that it fits movies perfectly. The rest of the time it totally sucks. Reply
  • steven75 - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Exactly this. 16:9: Perfection for movies, absolutely terrible for anything else. Reply
  • etre - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Is the CPU active cooled ? Reply
  • WhitneyLand - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    +1 great question. One of the keys to a great convertible will be the ability to not hear fans in your tablet. When I try Windows 8 tablets with a fan for some reason it's much more annoying than when it happens on my laptop. Psychology? I don't know but it's a factor. Reply
  • Friendly0Fire - Monday, June 24, 2013 - link

    I've read elsewhere that the CPU is in the "arm", so it's very likely passively cooled. Reply
  • Krysto - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Oh God, even Anandtech doesn't mention the "real" clock speeds of Intel's chips anymore. Intel has completely managed to mislead the whole tech media. They should be called what they are "1.6 Ghz chips" or whatever their speed is now, not "2.6 Ghz chips".

    Also running Android in a VM is so stupid, you'd be better off not having the option at all.
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  • pensive69 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link

    what would be stupid is limiting how many Android VMs we can run...now that fits the typical MS stupid exactly. I saw allow them until the I/O, RAM and or CPU choke.
    give us an Android cluster to fool with dudes.
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  • jimmysmit - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    What if I told you....

    You can already run android on top of windows???????????
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  • Nenad - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Well, this will have at least one advantage over BlueStacks Adroid on PC right now: Google Play. Reply
  • Rick83 - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    What nags me, is that it only has 4GB RAM. For a general purpose computer, that's very, very little, even if you have an SSD and are not too dependent on cache.
    But even in light usage, I normally hit about 6 GB of memory used by programs on my laptop (that's a few browser tabs, a bit of pdf, a few editors, mail, and at worst two or three photoshop files, a bibliography manager - basically what you need to create a poster or document), which makes context switching just horribly slow.
    Especially considering that you'll be doing some high resolution photoshop drawing on this thing as one of the primary usages, I'm worried that even 8 GB would be barely enough.

    If it had 8GB it would be a decent competitor to the Thinkpad Helix though. While the screen res of the Helix is fine, more is better, and the HD 4400 graphics should be a mild improvement over the HD4000 graphics in the Thinkpad, especially when using an external screen.

    It seems that 2013 is at last the year of the rebirth of the convertible, now in an ultrabook form factor.
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  • will1956 - Thursday, July 18, 2013 - link

    ive got a desktop with a overclocked FX-8120 (4.1GHz), overclocked GPU (sapphire 7870 GHz edition (OC to 1400 MHz clock and 1450 MHz memory) OC RAM (2400 MHz) and when working with ultra high resolution images (~14,000 x 12,000 pixels) it stutters.
    perhaps this is a extreme example but...
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  • WhitneyLand - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Should Apple be worried that people like me who own an iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Pro, still find this kind of product with MS/Google software really compelling? What the heck are they thinking not having a convertible strategy or product? At a minimum, why doesn't apple enable touch on existing laptops. Touch on laptops sounds silly but turns out in practice to have a lot of usage scenarios. Reply
  • pensive69 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link

    Apple should be worried if these non Apple types out-innovate...that's been an Apple sell point for years under Mr. Jobs. Reply
  • xaml - Saturday, June 22, 2013 - link

    The sleek border reminds me of a Galaxy S4, which is nice! Reply
  • halbhh2 - Sunday, June 23, 2013 - link

    While I understand the pleasant portability of 13.3" display, I wonder why a resolution of 3200x1800 shows up first at 13.3", and not 15"+ (or better 17"). Put those pixels to work giving us a super sharp 17" screen. Reply
  • Kidster3001 - Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - link

    It's harder and more expensive to make larger screens. this 3200x1800 screen has quite a bit lower PPI than the top phones today but I bet it costs MUCH more to make than the 5" screens. Reply
  • pensive69 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link

    got to love working systems that function like a digital Swiss Reply
  • pensive69 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link

    Army Knife (continued)
    our tech can use a device like this to get a lot of work and
    useful stuff done so we'll buy one and test it soon
    I always wondered why these multicore CPU's didn't
    assign a core to a particular O/S and let them work
    together.
    does anyone know how the Android stuff works with those
    Win 8 ports? [...Hidden in the display hinge is a USB 3.0 port, micro HDMI and a micro SD card reader...]
    if I get a decent file system utility in Android with legs into the
    hardware which Windows uses, that's a win.
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  • Kidster3001 - Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - link

    Windows can see the Android storage. I assume Android can see the uSDcard slot, USB and HDMI as well since top phones Android today already have those things. Reply
  • carlwu - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link

    Will this have: Gyroscope, Compass / Magnetometer, Accelerometer, to function like a real convertible/tablet? Reply
  • PeterNorman - Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - link

    Hello Anand! Is the S Pen larger than the one included with the Galaxy Note 10.1 or Note 2? Or is it the same size? Many thanks for the informative 'Hands On' article. Reply
  • LindaGDC - Sunday, July 07, 2013 - link

    Why cripple this great device with only 4GB of RAM? I canceled my order for a Duo 13 to get this but there is no way I am getting this with 4 GB of RAM. Who created this incredible laptop and then thought let's give them only 4GB of RAM just to make sure no one can do any serious multitasking with that 3200X1800 display?

    I am amazed Samsung has no clue about the target market for this laptop. The retarded 4GB of RAM is going to turn off most professionals and power users who would pay about $1500 or more for a laptop with such a radical new design. Most casual users who would not care about the 4GB of RAM likely will not be paying what this laptop is likely going to go on sale for.

    Add 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD and I will pay $2,000 for this or whatever Samsung wants for this. There is a huge market of professionals who would but this laptop if it is not crippled with only 4GB of RAM.
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  • Madrum - Sunday, July 07, 2013 - link

    This would be an excellent work and play item if done right. We don't exactly know about upgrade options as yet. However, I would certainly pay for an i7 quad core, 8GB Ram, 256GB SSD and as a Hybrid device I wouldn't mind a 3G/4G Cellular dual sim capability thrown in (as long as I'm doing a wish list). All of which may make this into a must have for the professional or traveler.

    One has to remember that you'd lose at least 10% of space in O/S's in a 128GB SSD. Plus any other program/systems one wanted to add, that quickly mounts up in diminished usable space.

    It's all well and fine to have a cheaper base, but the professional market out there is no small biscuit either.
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  • LindaGDC - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - link

    Why did Samsung cripple the ATIV Q by only including 4GB of RAM? I canceled my order for a Vaio Duo 13 to buy the ATIV Q when it was announced and I am so utterly disappointed with the measly 4GB of RAM. Who is the target market for this for Samsung? This is sold at a premium price and appeals to business and power users but why would you cripple arguably the best tablet ever created by only including 4GB of RAM? The lack of RAM is going to turn off most potential buyers of this tablet. 4GB of RAM is now standard on the cheapest laptop you can buy for 1/3 the price. Does Samsung really not want the ATIV Q to be a success by crippling it with only 4GB of RAM? The competing Duo 13 can be ordered with 8GB, i7, and 512GB SSD and the ATIV Q maxes out at 4GB, i5, and 256 SSD. What a shame that I am likely going to buy the Duo 13 as I absolutely need 8GB of RAM for work and multitasking. Reply
  • Thornik - Monday, July 15, 2013 - link

    It's a good tablet - definitely what I'll buy, but for <=$500. Bigger price is ridiculous for such "toy market" like tablets. Reply
  • Wolfpup - Friday, July 19, 2013 - link

    Why doesn't Google just release Android as a Windows 8 "app"? Then they'd have the ability to get licensing fees through Google Play for it, and it might occasionally be useful for Windows users.

    Otherwise though, the only reason I'm using Android is if I can't afford or can't have Windows on a particular device.
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