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  • Crono - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    Excellent, looking forward to MoDaCo ROM based on 4.3 GPe so I can dual boot Sense and 4.3 Android. Reply
  • Crono - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    MoDaCo.SWITCH, I mean.

    I'm glad the IR blaster is working now, that has made reluctant to get GPe. It's a feature you won't appreciate unless you have a bunch of remotes and realize that universal remotes - even the Harmony series from Logitech - have major annoyances like having to turn switch them from a known state (usually "off").
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  • James5mith - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    A caveat: That's only true if your devices only support power toggle, and not discrete Power On/Power Off commands. That being said, I understand your point. Reply
  • pixelstuff - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    Any bets on how long it will take to get the 4.3 update on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus this time around? Reply
  • madmilk - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    I'll place my bets on "never". Reply
  • Brian Klug - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    This.

    -Brian
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  • joser116 - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    I wonder if the update merely adds an extra 150 MB or totally replaces 4.2. Reply
  • Brian Klug - Friday, August 02, 2013 - link

    It's usually a diff, and if modem was flashed (which sometimes isn't a diff) that accounts for a lot of the size.

    -Brian
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  • Krysto - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    Awesome. Now waiting to see what's the difference between a Moto X and a Moto X GPE in terms of how fast they receive the updates, considering Moto X should get updates OTA directly from Motorola, too. Reply
  • ericbentley - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    I assume that the Moto X will not receive updates from Google, and they're shipping with Android 4.2.2 right?

    Such a shame, and so weird. It's like Motorola has internal communication with Google, even though they're owned by them. Kinda lame when a third party hardware manufacturer's phone gets OS updates faster than Google's own phone
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  • Mondozai - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    Which is why Motorola's engineers are pretty pissed by Google's neglect of the company. But Google understands that it can't be seen playing favourites too heavily as other OEM's will lose interest. Of course, nothing really threatens the domination of Android this year or next year but things move very fast, just look at the decline of Symbian in the 2009-2011 period.

    If Google is perceived as overtly picking favourites that will hurt them down the line. So Motorola simply has to deal with it.
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  • Kidster3001 - Monday, August 12, 2013 - link

    Google could play favorites if they wanted. What are the other OEMs going to do? Switch to another OS? Which OS would that be? Reply
  • madwolfa - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    Now, how about updating my dang Sprint HTC One to at least 4.2.2 ?? Reply
  • marc1000 - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    Brian, could you please confirm what is the version of Maps that came default (not updated) with 4.3?

    Jelly Bean had version 6.x and a few weeks ago Google started updating to 7.x via PlayStore, but this update pissed a lot of users that use gps navigation heavily.

    Thanks!
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  • flyingpants1 - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    Why? The new version of maps is so much better. Reply
  • marc1000 - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    Because Maps 7.x will remove the GPS Navigator app. This is the reason over 500 people are complaining in google groups. But I don't want to make this a post about the complaints.

    Brian, could you check and tell us the un-updated version of Maps ?
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  • cmikeh2 - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    I don't understand the problem that you're referring to. I have Maps 7.0.2 and I still have GPS Navigation. Reply
  • lmcd - Sunday, August 04, 2013 - link

    The quick access is the complaint. Also I seem to drop GPS signal more now, though that might be subconsciously paying more attention to it. Reply
  • marc1000 - Sunday, August 04, 2013 - link

    https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/map...

    here, 21 pages of complaints and explanations to why navigating in the new maps is worse than in the dedicated GPS Navigator app. unfortunately it seems Brian is not watching comments here anymore... :(
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  • superxero044 - Saturday, August 03, 2013 - link

    I am really jealous of these phones but living in Iowa our only real options for operators are Verizon and even worse US Cellular. There is little to no ATT or T-Mobile coverage here.

    Since I highly doubt these phones will be comes for Verizon or US Cellular, what Verizon phone would you recommend? I have been leaning toward the HTC One (not Google Play Edition), but the new Motorola phones are looking decent. I always appreciate your insight.
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  • djboxbaba - Monday, August 05, 2013 - link

    I feel your pain brotha :( Reply
  • jramskov - Sunday, August 04, 2013 - link

    And then the waiting starts for how long it will take for HTC to update the standard HTC One to 4.3. Reply
  • lmcd - Sunday, August 04, 2013 - link

    While I see that consistency is important with GPe phones, I feel like Google should add an OLED-optimized setting to reduce power consumption on these phones. User-toggled would be ideal. Reply
  • falko2904 - Monday, August 05, 2013 - link

    Did anyone notice the camera firmware update on the S4? After the phone booted from the updated, there was a message onscreen that said something like "Updating Camera Firmware, please wait" for about 20 seconds or so. Wonder what that brought to the table? Reply
  • SteelRing - Thursday, August 08, 2013 - link

    Got my update last night.... was hoping for the fix to allow camera pics to be saved to SD card. Still not there..... or am I just missing something? Reply

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