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  • sherlockwing - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    For $349 with Keyboard+Win8.1+Office 2013 the thing is not too bad. Although I'd pay extra for a 1080p version($399?)

    One thing though, How much space will be left on the 32GB after installing Win8.1+Office 2013?
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  • sherlockwing - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Just did some calculation, 32GB is only 29.8 GiB, Win8 & Office 2013 takes 23GiB on my computer. So you are looking at about 6 GiB or less of useable storage after deducting the recovery partition on the 32GB model. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Get a 64GB MicroSd for $50 and it's still unbeatable value at $400 total Reply
  • peterfares - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    It would be MUCH better to get the 64GB model for $50 more and buy a 32GB SD for $20 if you really need more storage. You can't install things to the SD slot and Windows Updates alone will probably fill your drive up before the end of the year. Reply
  • CarlosLx - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Not sure what "calculations" you did, but on my 32GB Surface RT, with a bunch of apps gobbling up several gigabytes (Halo:Spartan Assault alone uses up more than 1GB) I have a bit over 8GB free. Reply
  • Visual - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Well, I guess it is time you learned Windows RT is not Windows 8. Reply
  • Sivar - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    If you're going to post a snarky comment like that, you should at least provide data showing that Windows RT uses significantly less space than Windows 8. Reply
  • TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, November 09, 2013 - link

    Windows RT does not have any of the x86 code from windows 8. thus, the reason it does not use nearly as much space. it is effectively windows 8 phone with a couple bells and whistles. Reply
  • dragonsqrrl - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    The install size for 64-bit Windows is significantly larger than the 32-bit version. There's likely more than 6GB available, although it probably still won't be very much. Reply
  • Jaybus - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    z3740 is a 64-bit chip, however Win 8.1 with Connected Standby is still 32-bit only at this point, so I would assume that Asus is shipping them with 32-bit Win 8.1. This means it's Windows folder will be a good bit smaller than the Windows folder of a 64-bit laptop or PC. Still, 64-bit Connected Standby will likely be added in the near future, so it would be wise to get a 64 GB model if planning to upgrade whenever MS gets their act together. Reply
  • dragonsqrrl - Sunday, September 15, 2013 - link

    ...that and there's only 2GB of memory. The fact that Atom now supports 64bit instructions is irrelevant. The memory and storage capacity alone are enough to infer that this will be running 32bit Windows. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Friday, September 20, 2013 - link

    Not really. A 64bit CPU will process the same 32bit instruction faster than a 32bit CPU in many cases. Going 64bit can have a positive, if minimal, impact. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Friday, September 20, 2013 - link

    I guess you could always get a device now and when 8.1 x64 is updated to support connected standby you can reinstall windows - the same key will be valid for your device, whether the installation is x86 or x64. That's what I'm planning on doing. Reply
  • duzenko - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - link

    Are you going to pay for a copy of 64-bit Windows to upgrade to? Because surely Asus won't. Reply
  • clemsyn - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    I don't think they will include a recovery partition for the 32GB. They might just include a few recovery CD's to save space on the 32GB. Reply
  • AgeOfPanic - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    You don't really need recovery cd's with Windows 8. You can just do a factory refresh that's build into the system. Reply
  • damianrobertjones - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    You can disable system restore, hibernation file, virtual memory and a few more things to gain space Reply
  • max1001 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    $450 with full HD and 64 GB eMMc and I will buy it on day one. Reply
  • sri_tech - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    I don't mind paying $499 for FULL HD, 64GB and keyboard dock like this. Reply
  • JNo - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Dell Venue is 1080p. But not sure if it will be dockable or not and that is the bigger issue for me... Reply
  • teiglin - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    That was my first thought as well. The Windows directory alone on my (win8) laptop is just shy of 23GiB (and that seems to include some compression--explorer reports the size on disk as 22.9GB and size as 23.5GB), and almost 26GiB on my desktop. Given that "32GB" of storage is normally just under 30GiB, that hardly leaves anything, especially once you add in a full Office installation--maybe enough free space to keep the eMMC running smoothly. I guess 32-bit Windows is probably lighter--but still, didn't they have huge outcry about the 32GB Surface RT? And Windows RT is probably smaller still. Having just 32GB on Windows is just a terrible, terrible plan. Reply
  • nerd1 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    It is actually quite usable. I once used 32GB win8 tablet, installed win8 32 bit and office, and I got 8GB left. That's not too bad, considering you still have SD slot for medias. Reply
  • extide - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    It's not compresseion, it's that some of the files (the ones in winsxs) actually have 2 names and are counted twice in the size measurement, but not size on disk measurement. Reply
  • Visual - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    I'd pay over $1000 for a 1080p (or 1920x1200) version with Wacom digitizer and Haswell CPU with Iris GPU, even if they have to make it bigger and a bit heavier for the extra cooling. I could even see myself paying way more if they up the resolution even more, add an optical trackpad or a joystick and a few programmable buttons on the bezel, maybe even a touchpad on the back side, a battery in the dock, a keyboard backlight, etc...

    Sadly, no one wants to take my money.
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  • thedom - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

    The venue pro does ALL of that. The digitizer is synaptic though, which I believe is just as good as wacom's. Reply
  • jospoortvliet - Monday, September 23, 2013 - link

    Install a modern linux and get the equivalent in functionality (though better performance, stability and more familiar interface) in 8-12 gb ;-) Reply
  • uditrana - Monday, September 30, 2013 - link

    Dell is supposed to have an event on October 2nd unveil a good 1080p Baytrail tablet. Reply
  • sri_tech - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Anand,

    Keyboard dock included in that price?
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  • GTRagnarok - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    From the article:

    "There's keyboard dock included (!!) that adds a USB 3.0 port."
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  • danielfranklin - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Dear Asus,
    Please give me a 1080P version with the top end CPU and 4GB ram.
    Please dont make us wait 9 months + for it.

    I will pay you $600 today.

    Regards,
    Tech head community.
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  • fredbloggs73 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Isn't anyone excited that they used the Thinkpad and Macbook keyboards as a benchmark? Reply
  • meacupla - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    the layouts used on those keyboards are quite good.

    If the arrow keys were smaller on the transformer, it would allow a larger R-shift key, which is better for typing.
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  • fredbloggs73 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    thanks for pointing that out. That's a real shame about the smaller right shift key. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    FYI - I use this keyboard in my VivoTab RT and it works pretty much fine. Yes it is a bit cramped but it's certainly usable if you don't have big hands. Reply
  • Visual - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    Does it matter what they used as a benchmark if you don't know how it scored anyway? Reply
  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    Ahm... how would you measure keyboard scores??? Reply
  • linux4me - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    I'd rather see it ship with Debian 7.0 and all open source drivers with either LXDE or XFCE. This thing is useless under windows 8.1 with only 32GB storage. Reply
  • stadisticado - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Because I'm sure a SKU with a niche software stack that's going to sell (optimistically) 100k units would be a smart move for ASUS. Reply
  • Flunk - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    You're free to configure yours as you like when you get it. The Windows tax is pretty low on these low-end machines. Reply
  • boskone - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    My only hangup about this is that I would actually like it to be 12 or 13 inches.

    I have the TF101, and have been very pleased with it, but I don't really need another 10" tablet.
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  • euskalzabe - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Agreed, I would love it at 11.6", but keep in mind that anything larger than 10.6" will NOT come with Office 2013, so we're probably looking at a future filled with 10" devices. I've been using my VivoTab RT for months now and it's quite usable, but they 10" keyboard is certainly not my favorite as it's less than 100% size. I hope Surface 2 comes with Baytrail, in which case it'll replace my VivoTab RT, otherwise, T100 for me it is! Reply
  • rahuldesai1987 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Yeah me too. Give me an 11.6 inch screen/same res (happy with the same res on my 15.6 inch laptop now - lol ), 128gb Samsung 840 ssd and charge me $500. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    My VivoTab RT is 10". I've played with the HP Split 13 and can tell you that 13" is way too much when used as tablet (crazy heavy & unwieldy). I'd say 11.6" would be the perfect middle point. Reply
  • bleh0 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    At this price point I could see myself picking up the $399 model. While higher resolution, more ram, and more storage would be preferred I just don't see how they could keep it within such an attractive price range if they had added such features.

    Linux would be nice as well if I could have 100% confidence in the driver support.
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  • Qwertilot - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Suspect the Chromebooks are going to be better targets for subverting into cheap linux notebooks? Reply
  • marc1000 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    was my comment about "T100" name deleted??? how is that, you guys now delete individual comments but let spammers sell stuff here in comments at the same time? Reply
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    We don't delete anything but spam. Look hard for it, and I'm sure your comment is still here. Reply
  • marc1000 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    just realized that and came here to apologize, Ryan. I made the comment using my cell-phone and only today I saw that there are TWO articles on Asus T100. my mistake. Reply
  • Assimilator87 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    ASUS, please make a Kabini version of this! Reply
  • nerd1 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Price is SO incredible. I'd pay $599 for 1080p version with active digitizer. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    If you ask me, the Surface 2 now HAS to ship with Bay Trail. The value proposition of this T100 is absolutely unbeatable for the price. If Surface 2 ships with ARM, it's DOA, period. I've said it for the past year, it should be:

    Surface Pro 2 - haswell
    Surface 2 - baytrail
    Surface mini - T4
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  • nerd1 - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    RT is pretty much dead now - MS should release surface 2 with bay trail, 1080p, digitizer and I'd pay $599. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Surface 2 at 1080p + type cover, if you count the value proposition of this T100, I wouldn't pay more than 500. Heck, it should come at $400 unless they are looking to repeat GEN1 Surface's debacle. Reply
  • sorten - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    A Surface tablet for only $50 more than an ASUS tablet? I assume you've never owned an ASUS product. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    Why, I actually do, a VivoTab RT and it's pretty great. Good build quality and same performance as a Surface RT. I've used Surfaces before and they don't seem that much better. Also, the market seems to agree with me, otherwise people would have actually bought Surface RT en masse and not cause a 1 billion $ write-off. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    Besides, Surface RT now costs $350, the exact same amount as this T100. Reply
  • rburnham - Friday, October 11, 2013 - link

    A Surface version similar to this Asus tablet (with the Atom quad core CPU) would be amazing, especially if they can make the Surface a bit thinner than they are now. Reply
  • chizow - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Definitely interested in this as a low-end Surface replacement, Microsoft should take note. Certainly more interesting than any Windows RT based tablet given the current state of RT. Reply
  • ssiu - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    How much slower is Z3740 compared to Z3770? Would it be closer to ~10% (non-turbo frequency) or ~30% (turbot frequency)? 10% is not bad; 30% is bad ... Reply
  • vcfan - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    actually,turbo would be 20% slower not 30%. If you're doing high loads,i think you'll be on non turbo more than turbo since your temps will be higher. Reply
  • ssiu - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    Does keyboard dock has extra battery or not? If not, what do they put in to make it same weight as the tablet, lead? :) Reply
  • ShieTar - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    If they made the dock much lighter than the tablet, I'm sure it would fall over at the slightest touch? It's probably just a more stable structure than the tablet itself. Reply
  • ssiu - Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - link

    How much is 64GB model, $399? Reply
  • Bob Todd - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    So...$150 more sounds reasonable for another SKU with a 1440p panel (just want desktop mode to be usable at quarter resolution), 64GB emmc, 4GB RAM, and possibly the fastest Bay Trail offering. I'd happily pay $500 for that, assuming the gimped graphics could push a 1440p panel well enough in 2D of course. Somebody build it!

    And even this at $350 sounds pretty damn compelling since it includes the dock and a full version of Office 2013. I'm assuming that is Home & Student? That's still a $100+ software savings if you wanted those apps. Looks like Microsoft and the OEMs get it this round, I see some Windows 8.1 tablets showing up under the tree this Christmas.
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  • Daniel Egger - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Unless I hear otherwise I'll assume that this is the same nonsense time-limited Office 2013 demo they ship with a lot of PCs nowadays and can be activated by paying up... Reply
  • rahuldesai1987 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    No its the full version fre.. All touchscreen windows 8 devices upto 10.6 inches get a full version free. Reply
  • Jaybus - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    That's because you have to have young eyes to sit and work with full-page Office documents on a 10 inch screen. Reply
  • rahuldesai1987 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Why does anybody buy an Ipad now? When you get a full os with a full office suite with lesser weight, as good battery life and better performance and a keyboard for $350. Ipad costs $600 for 32Gb version and no keyboard and no expandable memory! Reply
  • ananduser - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Inertia. Simple OS and its equally simple ecosystem. Brand. Reply
  • ShieTar - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    A lot of people will walk into an Apple Shop and ask for an Ipad, because thats what they have heard is good at the lunch table.

    And lets be reasonable and wait for an actual review of the T100 before we call it better?
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  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    Agreed. On paper it seems great, but we don't even have final product BayTrail numbers yet. Let's wait to see this T100 reviewed. Reply
  • p303 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    You should try out one of these low cost Win8 tablets before disparaging the iPad. The last round of RT tablets were atrocious, performance-wise. Also, with a 16gb iPad, you start with 13-14gb of free space after the OS is installed. After Pages, Keynote, Numbers, twenty or so other apps, not to mention four or five magazines, a few books, and 20-30 comic books, I still have 3gb free.

    I remember when the first round of RT tablets came out, I was sitting next to a guy in Starbucks chatting with his friends about the three he had on hold. I went to check one out at the MS store that afternoon, and I gotta say, I felt sorry for the guy. It was worse than a $99 Chinese knockoff Android tablet.

    My guess is for $350 you're going to get another cut-rate paperweight. I don't understand why people think they're going to get the moon for nothing.
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  • rahuldesai1987 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Its just that Apple fleeces us and makes huge gross margins and people still flock to buy. Reply
  • nerd1 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    iPad is basically a enlarged ipod touch running phone OS. Jjust every other tablets has sd slot so you can spend $5 to get another 16gb. Reply
  • euskalzabe - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    You're quite wrong, and you don't seem to have used RT devices more than 5 minutes. If you used them on launch, they've gotten a LOT better/snappier. They're nowhere close to being GOOD, I'll give you that, and they're far from my Core i5, but frankly, I've been using a VivoTab RT for work for the past 8 months and it's served me perfectly fine. Far from atrocious.

    Regarding your $350/paperweight remark, do your homework. BayTrail is pretty decent performance wise and will be able to push through Win8 at a good-enough performance. Again, far from Core i5, but far from atrocious too.
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  • JNo - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Exactly. ipad vs this? THIS IS SPARTA! Reply
  • r3loaded - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    I'd really prefer it if they'd used proper SATA storage. eMMC is full of fail, especially on something that will run Windows 8. Reply
  • JNo - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    This is true. M.2 sata performance storage would rock. Reply
  • SrRaven - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    So I'm starting Uni in October (CS) and for Coding...I really don't need something too powerful as I have a descent PC at Home (and I won't be in Uni much anyway, as I need to work most days).

    Will the Bay Trail processor cause problems if I want to code for it?

    Also any idea if they will allow a true digitizer pen input like the surface has?
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  • rituraj - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Don't know jack about coding. Sorry..

    But about the digitizer, I don't think it will be available. Asus has never included digitizer support in any of their products if I recall correctly. If you really want a digitizer, surface pro 2 will be for you. I think a digitizer is one of the most underrated features in a tablet. I am never going to touch a tablet without a digitizer. I hope somebody makes a bay trail based convertible with a pen, with battery-dock, with a hard drive in the dock with sd card (not micro sd) support. I don't think I am asking too much, am I? I am looking at you SAMSUNG. Others don't care about poor people..
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  • Drumsticks - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Depends on what you're coding on and in. An IDE is much more resource heavy than text editor and a command line. You could probably do some small work with sublime text and a command line, but no big projects. Reply
  • SrRaven - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Yeah I am considering the Surface 2, but I'm having some problems with the amount it will cost (I'm a poor student so 350$ for this Tablet PC or 800 $ for a Surface 2).

    But yes, a Digitizer is amazing for some things.
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  • nerd1 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    ASUS had some lineups with proper wacom pen (EP121 and some other tablets), so I expect Dell, Lenovo, ASUS and Samsung will soon release baytrail tablet with proper wacom digitizers. Reply
  • cbf - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Don't do it.

    2Gb of RAM will be too little for most modern IDEs. It may run, but it will be very slow.

    As others have said, eMMC secondary store is second rate. Actually, not even that. Vastly inferior performance compared to modern SSDs, and potentially limited lifetime due to lower grade flash, inferior wear balancing algorithms, etc.

    Finally, you really don't want to be programming on 10" 1366 x 768 screen. Try to get something at least 13" and at least 1440 x 900.

    Yes, unfortunately, getting all that will be a fair amount more expensive than a T100.
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  • SrRaven - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Yeah. I would love the Chromebook Hardware but with a proper OS.

    I like the Chromebook build quality, but sadly even when you dual boot into a "normal" Linux, its not that good for coding.
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  • bryanb - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    You do know that Linus Torvalds uses a Pixel when he travels, right? Or when, like recently, his SSD in his desktop crashes. Reply
  • SrRaven - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    Yes, but the Pixel is on a whole different level price wise. Reply
  • mwarner1 - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    THIS is the product I have been waiting for - at least in a 64GB format. It amazes me how long it has taken to arrive, but hopefully this will spark off something similar to the Netbook revolution started by the Asus Eee 701 (which I owned & loved tinkering with)

    I bought the Asus VivoTab Smart ME400c earlier in the year as a compromise device, but I just couldn't get used to the lack of physical keyboard on a Windows device so had to get rid of it.

    Looking forward to it - just maybe this will give other manufacturers, releasing decent specced devices but with awful TN screens, a serious kick in the right direction.
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  • bryanb - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    I wish it ran a better OS, like android or chrome. Silly how as soon as they switch the CPU from Arm to Intel they screw up the already successful OS choice of the transformers that preceded it. Reply
  • haukionkannel - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Not bad for a tabled and reasonable good keyboard!
    As many have sayed, 1080p resolution screen would be nice, but I think that we can expect to see a big brother to this device soon enough!
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  • Strausd - Thursday, September 12, 2013 - link

    Does the keyboard dock have an extended battery?

    And does this come with a 32-bit version of Windows 8.1 or 64-bit?
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  • Hrel - Friday, September 13, 2013 - link

    That's awesome! I might FINALLY be able to buy a "laptop" that actually qualifies as portable and is cheap enough I'm willing to take with me in 3rd world countries where people are often robbed. With that said, I'd be willing to spend more for at least a 900p screen, preferably 1080p. Kick that thing up to $450, give me 1080p and 64GB of storage and you've probably got a deal. Looking forward to reading a full review. Having only one USB port could prove to be a deal breaker though... I'm one who can't use touchpads, gotta have a mouse. So if I can't plug in an external hdd all of a sudden I can't use the device for anything I want to. Reply
  • Impulses - Saturday, September 14, 2013 - link

    Could probably hook up a drive via the micro port and a mouse receiver on the full size port, or just use a Bluetooth mouse and have all ports free. Reply
  • Hrel - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    Maybe you don't live in the US but here product's using bluetooth are very limited. There simply aren't any bluetooth mice I like. Reply
  • ssiu - Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - link

    From here http://ark.intel.com/products/series/76761 the Z3740 would cost ASUS $32 and Z3770 would be $37. Why didn't ASUS pay $5 more for the Z3770 -- I'd gladly pay ASUS $10 more for it. Reply
  • speedwheels - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    $349 and a keyboard doc included. Have netbooks finally come of age ? Very nice pricing by Asus.. Reply
  • X-Nemesis - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    Is ssd/flash storage really that expensive nowadays that they couldn't make the minimum 64GB and then 128 and 256, without ending up charging the end user through the wazoo? Reply
  • rburnham - Friday, October 11, 2013 - link

    I was all set to get a low end Surface Pro, but then I saw this model. These specs, with the keyboard dock, at that price sounds great! It's a thin 10 inch model, so it'll be nicer to hold versus the Surface Pro or some of the larger 11 inch tablets. It's similar in price to some of the Surface RT units, but it's x86. There's a lot to like about this tablet.

    I worry about build quality, but it is Asus, and they rarely disappoint in that regard. Even if the keyboard isn't that great, it'll still make for a great stand/charging station for the tablet. The 18th can't arrive fast enough.
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  • azazel1024 - Sunday, October 20, 2013 - link

    Can anyone confirm if the micro USB port on the tablet is for charging only? Or does it support full USB host when not used for charging? A couple of early preview/product announcements indicated it could be used for both, but Anand and Lilliputings both mention the port is to charge the tablet and me ting no USB host functionality one way or another.

    It would be kind of sad if it can't be used for both.
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  • eva2000 - Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - link

    I'd love to see tablets with dual microsd slots so you can have 2x 64GB microsd cards ! Reply
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