Core i5 / P55 Lab Update
by Gary Key on September 11, 2009 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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This has been an interesting week to say the least for those of us stuck in the labs and not at AMD's DX11 GPU press briefings. Based on feedback from the Lynnfield launch article we have spent the last couple of days running additional benchmarks to address overclocking and clock for clock requests. Yes, we do listen and respond to the comments no matter how outlandish (you know who you are) some may be at times.
I will interject a personal note here, the emails/private messages that outlined a strong case for additional research and testing certainly held a lot more weight than comments like "You are on Intel's payroll...", "Worst review ever...", and the moonshot , "Illegal benchmarking methods..". First off, if we were on Intel's payroll we would not be working here (a logical conclusion, right? ;) ) As for the other comments, everyone is entitled to their opinions. We do our best to keep an open forum and let the comments fall where they may, but offering constructive criticism and facts to back up those comments is what actually causes change, not endless shock posts or attention grabbing statements. I still have hope in people abiding by the rules of Internet Etiquette, but apparently we are still a long ways off from that happening. I will step off the soap box, well, until the next article....
Just to set this up now, our overclock comparisons will be at 3.8GHz for the Core i5/i7 and Phenom II x4 965BE processors. Why 3.8GHz, well it is an easy number for all of our processors to hit on fairly low voltages with retail or mid-range air coolers. It is also an ideal clock range for the "set it and forget crowd" interested in 24/7 overclocking. Certainly we could go higher on air or water cooling and actually ran most of our Core i5/i7 numbers at 4.2GHz for the motherboard roundups. Our Phenom II x4 965BE is the hold up for higher numbers in our clock for clock comparisons.
AMD continues to have serious problems with their Phenom II processor range clocking above 3.8~4GHz on air with a 64-bit operating system. Unfortunately, there is nothing AMD can do to correct this in the current stepping, but they are actively working on improvements with each processor release. In fact, the latest Athlon II x2 processors are the first products we have that allow for 24/7 stable operation at 4GHz under Windows 7 x64. The quad cores are still lagging although our latest retail 965BE is showing promise around 3.92GHz in early testing. I state this now so it does not come as surprise later.
I will post several benchmark results later today based on our motherboard test suite. Anand will provide a more in-depth analysis next week along with an updated look at the Core i7/860. He might even have a surprise announcement from AMD. In the meantime, I have just about completed this additional testing and will return my focus on completing the first (of many) P55 motherboard article(s) that will be up in a couple of days. Our first review will cover the Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 among others. We recently received several other micro-ATX P55 motherboards and will look at those shortly. For now, this board is a perfect match for the Core i5/750 for our mainstream audience looking to upgrade an older platform.
Our graph below is an example of the information we will provide late today. Hopefully, this type of information will be useful for your purchasing decision along with our commentary about the results. I know there is not a Core 2 product listed, that will be forthcoming in the near future.
9/11 Update - I am still working on the FarCry 2 and H.A.W.X. benchmarks so the short update will be delayed until tomorrow morning.
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snakeoil - Friday, September 11, 2009 - link
only by doing this you will prove that you are not on intel's payroll.snakeoil - Saturday, September 12, 2009 - link
we also want to see temperatures when the processors are overclocked because some reviews say that when overcloded lynnfield reaches 95 degrees centigrades even when they were using a Thermalright MUX 120 which is ridiculous.http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-p7p55d-deluxe-m...">http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-p7p55d-deluxe-m...
DigitalFreak - Sunday, September 13, 2009 - link
We? Are the voices in your head speaking to you again?Eeqmcsq - Sunday, September 13, 2009 - link
It's the voices that say "We are Borg".maxxcool - Monday, September 14, 2009 - link
No its the voices that say "Jerk off the the Guild music video with Felicia Day in it"....I have deveopled quite the hatred for this open-palmed douce tool-bag...
snakeoil - Saturday, September 12, 2009 - link
we also want to see the power consumption when the processors are overclocked because some reviews say that lynnfield power consumption skyrockets when overclocked.http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-750-core-i7-...">http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-7...re-i7-86...
maxxcool - Monday, September 14, 2009 - link
oh yeah, and AMD is sooooo special you moron. did you not read Garys post you complete tool-bag douche drinking tampon stir stick?the 965 will have a over 200wat tdp at 4ghz. you cant run that in a common consumer system.
You want fair... heres fair. overclock both on LN2. see who wins. done. oh wait its been done and your sphincter is in ruins....
Go back to your moms basement you idiot.
Lifted - Saturday, September 12, 2009 - link
I guess they should disable SpeedStep/PowerNow! in the mobile processor reviews too, you know, to test battery life at stock speeds without "cheating".Alastayr - Friday, September 11, 2009 - link
Oh snakeoil, I love you like a father must love his constantly underachieving, yet futilely continuing second born son. Always trying, never giving up and sure as bloody hell fighting till the last breath.You're the only reason I read AT at all.