Computex 2003 - Day 1: DX9 Mayhem and Mobile Graphics
by Andrew Ku on September 22, 2003 6:10 PM EST- Posted in
- IT Computing
Due to our mobile coverage of ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 (M10) and NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5650 (NV31M), we got a lot of inquiries for Mobility Radeon 9600. In our corresponding emails to readers, I have been citing ATI’s already announced design wins as a reference point, since all of these products have passed NDA, we are free to talk about them. But we are at Computex now, so we decided to hit the show floors to find this seemingly elusive notebook, and instead of finding one, we found four made by either Clevo or Arima. These two companies ODM their products, so we will very likely see them pop up in North America soon. The strange thing is that GeForce FX Go5650 (NV31M) is no where to be seen here, at least from what we have seen so far. It is possible that the ODMs here know something system designers back in the US do not. In our talks with Clevo and Arima, they told us that they are actively considering NVIDIA mobile products, but outside of that there is no gurantee that they will actually produce them.
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These are the offering from Clevo, who produces products for companies like Sager, Eurocom, and Hypersonic. In fact, the two Sager notebooks (NP5680 and NP8890) and two Eurocom notebooks (D800P and D500P) that presently feature the Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro both are dubbings of the D800P and the D500P from Clevo.
Meanwhile, Clevo's D470V also uses the Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro, and is the ODM version of the Hypersonic ZX7 and Sager's NP4760. However, both shipping versions of this ODM desktop replacement notebook in the states use Mobility Radeon 9000. The sample present at the booth had a Mobility Radeon 9000, which the presentation board mentioned Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro. It turns out that there is an precusor version to the D470V that uses the Mobility Radeon 9000, and that the D470V is the newer version that uses the Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro.
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virtualgames0 - Sunday, September 28, 2003 - link
in reply to #5..since when did FF have good graphics? ;)
Anonymous User - Thursday, September 25, 2003 - link
I've bought more video cards then I would like to count (or could). I remember when it was 3DFX vs Nvidia and so on, markets switch every once in awhile but from what I can see from market share and production power NVIDIA isn't down for the count, nither will they let themselves lose out with their next set of video cards. I see the FX technology like I see SSE, if a game isn't programed for it, it doesn't get used. EAgames and Nvidia are buddy buddy right now which allows them to program the FX codepath, which is nice when I am playing C&C Generals: Zero Hour. DirectX 9? I remember when directx was not even an issue, it was all about Glide, OpenGL and the like. Why isn't anyone asking if DirectX 9 is really the answer to all our problems. I have a hard time beliving that Microsoft could outclass some of the technologies that Nvidia or even ATI produce.Anonymous User - Thursday, September 25, 2003 - link
On the 1st page:It's OPTIMAL, not OPTICAL
From the 2nd paragraph:
First is the topic of resources, typically, developers have an optical frame per second range, which they try to hit on all graphic solutions.
Anonymous User - Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - link
#9 That's the thing, both the P-M and the Radeon are pretty power efficient. Especially in comparison to the "desktop replacement" systems and should offer killer performance to boot.Anonymous User - Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - link
I think Nvidia will recover but the good thing about this is Nvidia has been humbled and now they know that next time they better put up a real effort or totally lose in the videocard market. I bet the NV40 will be fast and good it has to they have no choice but to kick ATIs arse or lose face. I am glad ATI is doing well, we all win with competition. I will hold on to my 4600 till HL2 and D3 arrive and see what is left after the dust clearsAnonymous User - Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - link
You might not have to wait too long #8.None of the spec parts are state of the art, but putting them all together in one manageable package with even average battery life does pose a challenge.
Anonymous User - Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - link
I'm still waiting for someone to come out with *THE* notebook setup:Pentium-M
Mobility Radeon 9600
17" LCD
Anonymous User - Monday, September 22, 2003 - link
(Sigh) The next round between ATI and Nvidia will be ATIs win yet again. It seems the NV38 will still be using the exceedingly huge fans that take up one PCI slot. And lets face it folks, when your product is beat, drivers can only do so much.I wont even discuss the mobile market because that is pretty much self explainatory. ATi wins their as well.
This market is becoming rather boring now and incredibly predictable. Im setting my sights on NV40 and R400 where Nvidia hopefully makes a comeback. Its become too one-sided at this point.
Happily gaming on a Radeon 9500 pro =)
Anonymous User - Monday, September 22, 2003 - link
#5, That's the LCD screen refresh not being able to keep up.Dasterdly - Monday, September 22, 2003 - link
Looky at that bigger picture of that laptop, FFIX looks like crap the tree's are cut off and pasted over a bit. YUK