Asus P5WD2-E Premium: Intel 975X for the Enthusiast
by Gary Key on January 16, 2006 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Final Words
The Asus P5WD2-E Premium is a very good solution for the Intel Enthusiast looking for a well designed and manufactured board with numerous options. The ability to fully utilize up to three PCI based cards is definitely a plus as the current market for PCI-E based peripherals is minimal. The performance of the board was outstanding in all testing phases and stability, while very good overall, could be improved with BIOS updates.
While not completely detrimental to our overall opinion of the board, we did run into a couple of nagging issues. Our Microsoft 2000 and 4000 USB keyboards were not properly detected at post several times, which generated a keyboard error. This did not occur with an older Microsoft Digital Media keyboard or several Logitech models.
We witnessed small CPU voltage spikes when overclocking our dual core processors. As an example, the 955EE processor was set to 1.4625V for the maximum FSB overclock testing and would vary from 1.44V up to 1.49V while testing. Although our memory would run completely stable at 2.1V with the 3-2-2-8 settings at DDR2-667, we had to increase the memory voltage to 2.25V at the same range settings when overclocking the 840EE or 955EE. The 7800GTX 512MB card used in the 955EE testing phase required the use of the 12V 4-pin Ezplug in order for the card to remain stable during the 3DMark tests.
These issues did not occur on the Asus P5WDG2-WS or Gigabyte GA-G1 975X boards. We have to wonder why Asus did not include their excellent 8-phase voltage regulator power design that can significantly lower operating temperatures while reducing input ripple current and output ripple voltages. In fact, both of our Intel EE processors ran on average about 6 degrees C higher than on the Asus P5WDG2-WS and 3 degrees C higher than on the Gigabyte board. We believe that the 8-phase solution would have addressed some of the voltage and temperature issues that we witnessed while improving its overclocking performance even further. While the board's overall stability is very good, we feel like Asus has some minor work to do on the BIOS at this time.
With that said, let's move on to our performance opinions regarding this board.
In the video area, the inclusion of two physical PCI Express x16 slots that fully supports x8 bandwidth operation for two graphics cards is an important step for Intel with this chipset. The board fully supports ATI CrossFire mode in our internal testing. We are still waiting on the X1800XT MasterCard to arrive for further CrossFire testing, but we did not notice any issues with the X850XT CrossFire solution and 5.13 driver set.
In the on-board audio area, this board has an excellent implementation of the Realtek ALC882M High Definition Audio Codec. The software provided has Jack-Sensing, S/PDIF Out support, interrupt capability, and Dolby Master Studio support. The ALC882M will encode digital audio contents to real-time Dolby Digital streams for pass through via the S/PDIF ports to an AC-3 decoder for playback. The audio output of this codec in the music, video, and gaming areas is very good while performance in certain games has improved tremendously with the R1.29 driver release. If you plan on playing on-line action type titles, we highly suggest a dedicated sound card at this time, but the onboard capabilities of the ALC882M will satisfy the majority of users.
In the storage area, the Asus board offers a wide variety of storage options with additional SATA RAID ports. The board fully offers Intel's excellent Matrix RAID system and offers Hot Swap, NCQ, and 3Gb/s capability. Asus supplements the Intel SATA II capability with the Marvell 88SE6141 SATA II chipset featuring support for Hot Swap, NCQ, and 3Gb/s operation along with an external SATA II port. The board offers the standard eight Intel USB ports and two IEEE 1394a ports utilizing the TI TSB43AB22A chipset. However, we still believe that Firewire 800 should have been offered on the Asus P5WD2-E board, since it is their premium offering.
In the performance area, the Asus P5WD2-E consistently offered excellent performance while exceeding the other solutions at various times. Asus offers their HyperPath3 BIOS option that effectively reduces memory latencies even further on the Intel 975X chipset. The board's performance with the 955EE CPU was excellent and is an indication of a well engineered solution. While we are very satisfied with the overall performance of the board, we feel like it is not as polished as the P5WDG2-WS or as stable at the extreme edge as the Gigabyte GA-G1 975X.
The Asus P5WD2-E Premium is a very good board that could have been excellent with the inclusion of their 8-phase voltage regulator solution and some further BIOS improvements. While we are very confident that Asus will address the BIOS issues, we are left wondering what could have been with this board. We will hold our final opinion on this board until we complete testing on other 975X based solutions. In the meantime, the game is definitely afoot.
The Asus P5WD2-E Premium is a very good solution for the Intel Enthusiast looking for a well designed and manufactured board with numerous options. The ability to fully utilize up to three PCI based cards is definitely a plus as the current market for PCI-E based peripherals is minimal. The performance of the board was outstanding in all testing phases and stability, while very good overall, could be improved with BIOS updates.
While not completely detrimental to our overall opinion of the board, we did run into a couple of nagging issues. Our Microsoft 2000 and 4000 USB keyboards were not properly detected at post several times, which generated a keyboard error. This did not occur with an older Microsoft Digital Media keyboard or several Logitech models.
We witnessed small CPU voltage spikes when overclocking our dual core processors. As an example, the 955EE processor was set to 1.4625V for the maximum FSB overclock testing and would vary from 1.44V up to 1.49V while testing. Although our memory would run completely stable at 2.1V with the 3-2-2-8 settings at DDR2-667, we had to increase the memory voltage to 2.25V at the same range settings when overclocking the 840EE or 955EE. The 7800GTX 512MB card used in the 955EE testing phase required the use of the 12V 4-pin Ezplug in order for the card to remain stable during the 3DMark tests.
These issues did not occur on the Asus P5WDG2-WS or Gigabyte GA-G1 975X boards. We have to wonder why Asus did not include their excellent 8-phase voltage regulator power design that can significantly lower operating temperatures while reducing input ripple current and output ripple voltages. In fact, both of our Intel EE processors ran on average about 6 degrees C higher than on the Asus P5WDG2-WS and 3 degrees C higher than on the Gigabyte board. We believe that the 8-phase solution would have addressed some of the voltage and temperature issues that we witnessed while improving its overclocking performance even further. While the board's overall stability is very good, we feel like Asus has some minor work to do on the BIOS at this time.
With that said, let's move on to our performance opinions regarding this board.
In the video area, the inclusion of two physical PCI Express x16 slots that fully supports x8 bandwidth operation for two graphics cards is an important step for Intel with this chipset. The board fully supports ATI CrossFire mode in our internal testing. We are still waiting on the X1800XT MasterCard to arrive for further CrossFire testing, but we did not notice any issues with the X850XT CrossFire solution and 5.13 driver set.
In the on-board audio area, this board has an excellent implementation of the Realtek ALC882M High Definition Audio Codec. The software provided has Jack-Sensing, S/PDIF Out support, interrupt capability, and Dolby Master Studio support. The ALC882M will encode digital audio contents to real-time Dolby Digital streams for pass through via the S/PDIF ports to an AC-3 decoder for playback. The audio output of this codec in the music, video, and gaming areas is very good while performance in certain games has improved tremendously with the R1.29 driver release. If you plan on playing on-line action type titles, we highly suggest a dedicated sound card at this time, but the onboard capabilities of the ALC882M will satisfy the majority of users.
In the storage area, the Asus board offers a wide variety of storage options with additional SATA RAID ports. The board fully offers Intel's excellent Matrix RAID system and offers Hot Swap, NCQ, and 3Gb/s capability. Asus supplements the Intel SATA II capability with the Marvell 88SE6141 SATA II chipset featuring support for Hot Swap, NCQ, and 3Gb/s operation along with an external SATA II port. The board offers the standard eight Intel USB ports and two IEEE 1394a ports utilizing the TI TSB43AB22A chipset. However, we still believe that Firewire 800 should have been offered on the Asus P5WD2-E board, since it is their premium offering.
In the performance area, the Asus P5WD2-E consistently offered excellent performance while exceeding the other solutions at various times. Asus offers their HyperPath3 BIOS option that effectively reduces memory latencies even further on the Intel 975X chipset. The board's performance with the 955EE CPU was excellent and is an indication of a well engineered solution. While we are very satisfied with the overall performance of the board, we feel like it is not as polished as the P5WDG2-WS or as stable at the extreme edge as the Gigabyte GA-G1 975X.
The Asus P5WD2-E Premium is a very good board that could have been excellent with the inclusion of their 8-phase voltage regulator solution and some further BIOS improvements. While we are very confident that Asus will address the BIOS issues, we are left wondering what could have been with this board. We will hold our final opinion on this board until we complete testing on other 975X based solutions. In the meantime, the game is definitely afoot.
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Dfere - Thursday, May 18, 2006 - link
Just bought this and I am having a problem even getting this to post. Fans boot and HD starts to boot. No video image, monitor resets and then blanks.I stripped out unnecesary components- still no joy.
I have an Thermaltake XaserIII 480 with adapter and EZ 4 plug molex connected.
SATA 1 Port using WD 80 gig HD
Pentium D 805 w/ stock heatsink.
Inno3d 6200 TC video in 1st PCI 16 slot.
2X1 Gig PNY memory in Black series of slots.
I will be trying to use only one stock of memory, and then will be taking MB out of case and trying to boot on non-conducitve surface. Anyone else got advice?
TechJunkie - Friday, March 3, 2006 - link
I've had it now for almost a week and have started noticing problems. Many forums are now littered with complaints, mainly aimed at the Marvell issue.I mistakenly had set up my system the first time with the Intel chipset and using "Standard IDE"... system worked fine other than the issue with the Marvell. Benchmarks ran fine and 3DMark06 looked great.
I then reinstalled the OS, this time doing the PITA F6 procedure and set up the drives on the Intel controller using RAID (but didn't actually set up a RAID, simply wanted the AHCI with the ability to in the future set up RAID).
This morning I tried to run the 3DMark06 benchmark and while it ran to completion, the graphics screen seemed all corrupted throughout...I'm thinking power problem but it didn't have this issue last go around. Can setting up the drives differently have caused this from a power perspective or is this just one of the possibly many things wrong with this board?
I am wondering if I should RMA it back to zipzoom and get the Intel board, which has always been my choice, except this time the extra SATAII ports provided by the Marvell persuaded me to give ASUS a shot...ironic, isn't it!
In your opinion, based on what you know, will the issues with this board be resolved by BIOS/driver updates? It is a PITA to take my rig apart to swap out the motherboard but I will bite the bullet and get the Intel 975X board if this board can't be fixed via BIOS/driver updates.
medic91b2 - Monday, February 6, 2006 - link
I've had this m/b for a few week's and I have to say that it has many bug's in it. As far as i know, no one has gotten the marvell sata driver's to work and on the intel side people have gotten many mixed result's. I gave up trying to make a raid on this board. Asus support is nowere to be found, I think if any one want's to rate it then yhey should test all of the components of the boardGary Key - Saturday, February 11, 2006 - link
Email me and I will provide you with an updated bios that solves the USB issue and voltage spikes. I still have not had an issue with the Marvell RAID setup and two Raptors.
Zucker2k - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
Gary,Could you please e-mail me the updated bios? email: qommonsense@gmail.com. Thanks.
Richard.
Joepublic2 - Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - link
As far as the motherboard goes, it looks pretty good. NB/SB are passively cooled, the layout is good and the MOSFETs are heatsinked (I've heard of problems with the voltage regulators on cheaper intel boards failing, often because they got too hot). I like how Anandtech's motherboard articles are very critical and mention things that other sites seem to glaze over, such as if the board's voltage regulator is three, four or eight phase.should read "processor's"
Gary Key - Thursday, January 19, 2006 - link
It is corrected. I had it marked on the final edit but missed it before publication, excuse the Homer moment please. :-) It is a good board but we felt like Asus did not go all the way on it and should have considering the price point. Although the board is not in retail yet we were somewhat disappointed with the bios also. Asus is working on a new release at this time and we hope to be able to test it in the next roundup.
ghg - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link
HiWhen may we expect the ANANDTECH 975x shootout ?
BR
Gary G.
Gary Key - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link
We should be finished in about three weeks. We have two additional boards in house and another two on their way. We will also have an overclocking shoot out with the Presler and Cedar Mill chips.
ghg - Friday, March 3, 2006 - link
HiAny news about the 975x shootout ?
BR
Gary G.