Working on Radeon 9600XT

by Anand Lal Shimpi on October 9, 2003 12:37 PM EST
So of course everyone has been asking for benchmarks of the Radeon 9600XT, and next week we'll be able to provide you with them. Right now we're in the early formulation stages of the review and I wanted to get some feedback from you all in terms of what you'd like to see included.

Keep in mind that we'll be using our new test suite of around 20 benchmarks, so we have to watch what we include in order for there to be enough time to physically publish this thing by next week.

The first question is resolution; since we're talking about cards in the $100 - $200 range and not the top of the line stuff, is testing only at 1024x768 ok? Frame rates at 1600x1200 with these cards aren't exactly playable, so I figured 10x7 tests should be fine. We'd also probably throw in AA/AF tests at the same res, which will also help stress the card.

The next question is what cards do we include? Here's what I'm planning on doing right now:

ATI Radeon 9600XT
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
ATI Radeon 9700
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600

I'd like to stick to 6 cards simply because of the plethora of benchmarks we're running on them (6 cards * 20 benchmarks * 2 tests per benchmark = 240 tests). Anything you'd like to see added? Removed? I can't guarantee that we'll get it in there but I'd like to hear your opinions.

Finally we have to ask what platform we should test on. For this to be simply a video card test we should test on the fastest platform available (Athlon 64 FX 51), however whenever we do something like that we usually get complaints that the system isn't realistic enough and we should test on a cheaper platform. Our reasoning for going with the highest performing CPU is to remove the CPU as a bottleneck and truly figure out which video card is the fastest, but there is still much to be said about using a more reasonably priced test bed. My inclination right now is to use the Athlon 64 FX as the test platform and do a CPU scaling comparison later, but if we get enough requests to switch platforms I will. I don't think including a second platform would be feasible for this review simply because of the short time period we have to get all the testing done.

As always, your comments are much appreciated and even more desired. So let me know :)

I haven't been getting much sleep lately so I'm thinking a nice 5 or 10 minute nap may be in order before lunch.

Enjoy the day folks, take care.
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  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    Epic rULZ
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    Dont Worry ,,,Hakors say it runs on GF3 no Problemo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so PLAY UNREAL 2004 With your new cart And u wont forget it.....


    Right Buddy..........
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    The thing about is Dont worry....Every thing is going RUN fine no matter What jou Got


    We Havevto Vorry about ur own State
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    Thank You #16
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    #15 Hey when HL2 comes out the 9600 should be a steal so dont worry about it
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    OK Bay, all we to do is to pencil in the results, the difference at best is maybe 10% so just figure 10% percent in the price of the wallet that is in the pocket...I'm trying so hard not to use the word you when writing someone...
  • Bay - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    #8 - Sure, you may be right. The main purpose in my asking of him to use a 9700 Pro instead of a 9700 was to perhaps clear up some controversy of which performs faster - the 9600XT or 9700 Pro (you can browse the forums of the major websites to see what I'm talking about).

    #11 - Sure, but it would be nice to see them on the same set of graphs. ;)
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    #11 True, We already know that these super Carts are still not ready for "Prime Time " in heavy fire-fights at 16x12 w/aa/af enabled... It's a pity I still have to go down in resolution on my 400.00 video card to get frame rates that are exceptable...Example UT2K3 Excessive/Mod is the most demanding app. for a videocard I crawl some times at 1280x960 ....
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    test-bed system should be a 3ghz on a D865GBFL (or another 865 platform)... it (motherboard) is a cheap mainsteam dual-channel DDR board... I think that the 9500pro would be a nice inclusion, if it wins again, I would give it a liftime achievement award (I already noticed that its GPixel count is higher than the 9600XT on ATI's site... 2.2 vs 2.0). Also DX8.1 features should be run on an 8500 vs the 9600np,FX5200 & FX5600.
  • Anonymous - Thursday, October 9, 2003 - link

    we already know what a 9700/9800 does by now DONT WE?????

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