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Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor
Apple's Mac Pro - A True PowerMac Successor
Date: August 16th, 2006
Topic: Mac
Manufacturer: Apple
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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Memory Performance

We'll start off our look at the Mac Pro's performance with some low level memory tests, since arguably the most controversial aspect of the Mac Pro is its use of Fully Buffered DIMMs.  For more information about FB-DIMMs be sure to read our original article on the Mac Pro

L2 Cache Latency

The G5 had a very quick 12-cycle L2 cache, which gives it a slight performance advantage compared to the 14-cycle L2 of the Xeons in the Mac Pro.  Access latency is only one part of the puzzle however, as the G5s benchmarked here only had a 512KB L2 cache (the G5 later got an upgrade to a 1MB cache) while the Xeons in the Mac Pro have a 4MB L2 cache per chip.  The G5 had a slightly faster L2, but you can reach higher clocks with the Xeon thus minimizing the effective latency and you can fit more data into the larger L2. 

Memory Access Latency

And here we see the real killer with FB-DIMMs; although the Mac Pro boasts lower latency memory accesses than the PowerMac G5, it actually takes longer to access main memory than the Core Duo processor in the MacBook Pro.  This is much worse than it sounds once you take into account the fact that the MacBook Pro features a 667MHz FSB compared to the 1333MHz FSB (per chip) used in the Mac Pro. 

We can further put things in perspective by looking at memory latency under Windows XP, compared to Intel's Core 2 processor.  Remember that the Core 2 is identical to the Xeons in the Mac Pro, the difference being that the chipset uses regular DDR2 memory instead of DDR2-667 FB-DIMMs.  Note that for our Core 2 system in the comparison below we ran the memory at DDR2-667 at 5-5-5-15 timings as well as DDR2-800 at 4-4-4-12 to provide apples-to-apples as well as apples-to-fastest comparisons. 

 CPU Everest
CPU-Z 1.35 (8192KB, 256-byte stride) Everest READ Everest WRITE
Apple Mac Pro 2.66GHz (DDR2-667 FB-DIMM Quad Channel) 100 ns 87.4 ns 4292 MB/s 3759 MB/s
Apple Mac Pro 2.66GHz (DDR2-667 FB-DIMM Dual Channel) 105.8 ns 92.3 ns 4141 MB/s 3096 MB/s
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz (DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 Dual Channel) 59.9 ns 52.8 ns 7413 MB/s 4859 MB/s
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz (DDR2-667 5-5-5-15 Dual Channel) 68.9 ns 59 ns 6782 MB/s 4858 MB/s

 

It's not Apple's fault, but FB-DIMMs absolutely kill memory latency; even running in quad channel mode, the FB-DIMM equipped Mac Pro takes 45% more time to access memory than our DDR2 equipped test bed at the same memory frequency.  Things don't get any prettier when we look at memory bandwidth either.

Remember the overhead we were worried about with the serialization of parallel memory requests?  With four FBD channels, the best we're able to see out of the Mac Pro is 4.292GB/s, compared to the 6.782GB/s of bandwidth our dual channel Core 2 testbed is able to provide.  The efficiency table below says it all:

 CPU Peak Theoretical Bandwidth
Everest READ Efficiency
Apple Mac Pro 2.66GHz (DDR2-667 FB-DIMM Quad Channel) 21.3GB/s 4.292GB/s 20%
Apple Mac Pro 2.66GHz (DDR2-667 FB-DIMM Dual Channel) 10.67GB/s 4.141GB/s 38.8%
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz (DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 Dual Channel) 12.8GB/s 7.413GB/s 57.9%
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz (DDR2-667 5-5-5-15 Dual Channel) 10.67GB/s 6.782GB/s 63.6%

 

FB-DIMMs are simply not good for memory performance; the added capacity allowed by having 8 FB-DIMM slots on the Mac Pro had better be worth it, because if Apple were to release a Core 2 based Mac chances are that it could give the Mac Pro a run for its money in a number of memory sensitive tasks. 

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94 Comments - Last by nexcom, 73 days ago
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Wow by pervisanathema, 1273 days ago
I want one. :o

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Sure, I'm trolling by Josh7289, 1273 days ago
But what is so good about Macs? Why would I want a Mac instead of a PC? What can a Mac offer me that a PC can't? I don't like trolling, but I seriously am asking these questions and want to know what the answers are.

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by Desslok, 1273 days ago
Nothing beats their current iLife software suite. At least nothing I have found comes close to it on the PC side, plus now that you can run XP on them you can have the best of both worlds. Albeit no SLI/Crossfire, but then again how many people really use SLI?

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by retrospooty, 1273 days ago
I keep asking the same question, and ilife keeps coming up as the answer, but no-one cares to explain what it is an/or why it is better then the PC equivalent. What is ilife, and why is it so great?

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by Desslok, 1273 days ago
Read the reviews on iLife if you want to know more. They can explain it much better than I.

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by retrospooty, 1272 days ago
Thanks, I did at your suggestion... So its a suite of iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, GarageBand, and iWeb... Oh boy, I am totally unimpressed. I have all that on my PC using various free crap. I am sure they are nice apps for what they do, but hardly worth purchasing (thus the reason they are free). That is SOOOO not a reason to buy a MAC over PC (to me anyhow). I prefer to build my own hardware and have a way faster system.

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by plinden, 1272 days ago
Unlike you, I've used both iLife and free crap (as you aptly call it), and apart from Picassa (as a replacement for iPhoto) there's no contest. I have been able to very quickly and easily put together DVDs of the kids for the rest of the family using iMovie and iDVD. Sure I have done something similar with Windows Movie Maker, but the result is nowhere near as good.

But ignoring iLife (it's not one of the reasons I give for liking Macs) there is still no reason for me to switch back to Windows.

90% of my time on my computers is spent working ... that includes code development. Compilation time for my code on my Mac is the same as in Linux but is twice as fast per CPU cycle as in Windows.

So explain to me again why Macs are crap ... what? ... oh games. Right, well I guess I'm too cheap to spend thousands on a toy.

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by retrospooty, 1272 days ago
I never said macs are crap specifically... I was just asking what the draw is. I would personally not buy ANY computer from ANY major manufacturer. Not Dell, not sony, gateway, Apple, or any other manufacturer, because they are all crap. Cheap mobo's and memory bought in bulk and sold to the masses. Junk.

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by michael2k, 1272 days ago
1:) Well, according to Anandtech's calculations, it's cheaper to buy a quad CPU Mac than to build one.
2:) iLife is better than "free crap"
3:) Macs can run Windows, BSD, Linux, and OS X all at once; PCs cannot
4:) Drive sleds
5:) Ram risers
6:) Quiet case
7:) 6 SATA connectors
8:) 4 PCIe slots and 8 monitors

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RE: Sure, I'm trolling by retrospooty, 1272 days ago
Yes, in general, good quality components cost more than cheap crap... This is why Acura and Lexus cost more than a Ford, even though they are all built in hte USA. Would you rather get the mobo, memory, HDD, and video card that some kind and caring (cough cough) company landed a mulimillion dollar cotract to buy 10's of thousands, or pick your own?

What is your point?

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