We are working on a final update to our first look at the new AMD SB750 Southbridge and Advanced Clock Calibration technology.  Based upon requests, we are currently testing the 9600BE, 9550, and 8750 processors to provide an indication of overclock results based on older B2 processors and current non-BE units.  In preliminary testing, we can already state that the Black Edition processors show the greatest promise when it comes to overclocking.

Also, we do not have any further technical information on exactly how ACC works.  We have had several discussions with AMD but nothing concrete to report so far.  There are some valid theories about what AMD is doing behind the big curtain, but nothing substantiated yet.  Throwing caution to the wind, I would say inter-register fine tuning is occurring along with some other pipeline and clock optimizations.  But I could be completely wrong (would not be the first or last time) if AMD ever opens the curtain for us to take a peek inside.

Foxconn has provided a new BIOS update tonight for the A79A-S motherboard that allows us to switch off the TLB fix as our preliminary results with the 9600BE have been a bit strange.  Also, we have production release RAID 5 drivers to test in order to answer a few storage performance questions and we will take a quick look at 8GB memory clocking on this board in our update.

In regards to our 9600BE testing to date, our results have been unusual to say the least.  We easily took our CPU up to 3.1GHz on the Foxconn board, but we have not noticed any dramatic differences with ACC enabled.  As we approached the 3.1GHz range, our voltage requirements were 1.4825V with ACC enabled and 1.525V without it enabled.  However, no differences in core clock speeds were noted on this 790FX/SB750 equipped board at these voltage settings.  It was not until we installed this CPU in our 790FX/SB600 board that we noticed a true clock speed difference as our CPU sample would not go above 2.8GHz with 1.525V on the core.  We found it strange that ACC did not really affect our core clocks as it had on our B3 processors. So, either the SB750 chipset provided a boost (not likely, but who knows at this point) or it's the board/BIOS combination from Foxconn.  We are still testing on other 790FX/SB600 boards to discover any differences, but so far it appears this CPU is hitting a 2.8GHz wall on the Gigabyte, MSI, and DFI boards.

We decided to do one more test and that was to increase CPU core voltage to a maximum 1.575V (does that void the warranty?, editor - probably so) on the Foxconn board and see where that would take us with this CPU.  With ACC disabled we hit 3.2GHz and thought that would be our limit based on earlier results.  After some fine tuning of the cores with ACC enabled, we hit 3.33GHz as shown in the screenshot below.  We would never run at this voltage on a 24/7 basis, but with the help of some serious cooling assistance from our CoolIT Systems Freezone Elite, we ended up with a platform that has been stable looping various tests for the past couple of days.  That said, with the TLB fix enabled, performance has not been good so we are looking forward to what the results will be with the fix disabled.

 

We finally get our first 1GHz overclock on a Phenom but wish it did not take so many volts. Additional images are in the gallery.

Gallery: SB750 Blog
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  • computerfarmer - Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - link

    It is good to hear all the news about the overclocking. I am hoping to hear something about the rest of the story, example: how is the SATA performance, is 128mb side-port memory enough for Vista? Is this because of waiting for a launch version of this motherboard? There is a Gigabyte review ....
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-integrated...">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-integrated...
  • ZootyGray - Monday, August 11, 2008 - link

    What northbridge is on this mobo - and where, in these 3 articles, was it mentioned?
  • jslusser - Tuesday, August 5, 2008 - link

    The GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H is on Newegg.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
  • MikeODanyurs - Monday, August 4, 2008 - link

    To use now in a HTPC and possibly later in a regular system. Why would anyone spend the same amount of money on a low watt CPU when they can get a better CPU and and underclock it for the same price or cheaper?
  • MikeODanyurs - Sunday, August 3, 2008 - link

    I read that ACC will help Overclocking Black Edition Phenoms, but for me I would also like to Underclock it for HTPC, but read that it might be problematic? Can you test to see if a 9850BE will underclock OK on a SB750 board say to 10x multiplier (about a 9350e CPU) 2GHz?
  • HazaroudsSmoker - Sunday, August 3, 2008 - link

    Why if you plan on underclocking a CPU would you spend money on a 9850BE when you could go for one of the new low power processors?
  • dvijaydev46 - Sunday, August 3, 2008 - link

    Why not post some benches at those speeds?Please do post some. I'm eager to see how a phenom works above 3.3.
  • initialised - Saturday, August 2, 2008 - link

    [quote]our voltage requirements were 1.4825V with ACC enabled and 1.525V without it enabled.[/quote]As I mentioned before this is strong evidence of a variable transistor threshold voltage (V[size=10]th[/size]) within the architecture which, when enabled (using ACC) pulls down the voltage requirements at higher frequencies.
  • SKoprowski - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - link

    So how are you disabling the TLB fix with the 9600BE? The TLB fix is automatically enabled in Vista with SP1 regardless if it is disabled in the motherboard's bios. You need to use AMD's overdrive to disable it or another third-party application.
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - link

    "Foxconn has provided a new BIOS update tonight for the A79A-S motherboard that allows us to switch off the TLB fix as our preliminary results with the 9600BE have been a bit strange."

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