I personally just don't get why you would want curved on a 27" monitor. On an Ultrawide sure, but too me it just doesn't make sense on a 16:9 that is only 27".
I think it's moreso a case of the curve being an innate spec of the panels used.
Looking forward, take note of every time you see a curved monitor and whether it uses a VA-type panel. I'd say that or 8 or 9 times out of 10, it's a VA panel as opposed to any other panel type.
Monitor manufacturers probably want to market to less knowledgeable users that can readily see a big difference between the VA blacks/contrast levels vs more traditional TN or even IPS panels which arguably have a "very dark gray" as black. In stores, you'll generally see a bigger difference in contrast than you see in color gamut, and even on the box, it's generally favorable to market a "1:3000" contrast ratio rather than a "1:1000" contrast ratio--bigger number = better to less knowledgeable buyers.
It's possible the monitor manufacturers would opt for flat VA panels if they had the same contrast/refresh rate/availability/price as curved monitor-sized VA panels, but because that's just what's available from the panel manufacturer, that's essentially why the final monitor product ends up being curved, too.
The association between VA and curved for gaming panels - especially the ultrawide sort - is mostly down to Samsung. Between curved, high DPI, ultrawide, and HDR the monitor market is pulling in more ways than any of the panel makers can keep up with. Samsung has gone all in on curved VA.
This is the same panel and specs (except the curve: 1500 vs 1800) as the AOC AG273QCX which is currently available on Amazon for $299... Why would someone pay $160 premium for this panel?
Military wanna-be man children types that live out their lives in first person shooters from the basements of their parents homes will pay extra for anything festooned in non-functionally beneficial LEDs that has the word tactical slapped somewhere in the marketing material.
Oakley specs are the real deal for outdoor sports. There are a ton of Oakley knockoffs since its early days but the Oakley premium is not all marketing.
Oakley apparels on the other hand, yeah I got your point.
Wow, that takes me back. In the early 90's, overpriced Oakley sunglasses were one of those yuppie status symbols, like Air Jordan sneakers and the matching satin jacket.
From TFTCentral "Samsung also have a 27" panel with a higher 2560 x 1440 resolution and 144Hz in production since Q2 2017. This has been used in some displays already, for instance the AOC AGON AG273QCX. Samsung are now planning to offer an update to this panel with a boosted 165Hz refresh rate, and this panel was expected to go in to production in Q1 2019."
With the refresh rate at 165, this may be an updated version. It may be better from a black > gray transition standpoint, which actually may be worth it to some. It could be almost no different, which as you said, would be silly to pay for.
Possibly its the new panel, I didnt catch the 165hz screen. However, the MPRT (useless spec) on the AOC and this panel are rated the same (1ms), so I doubt there is any increase in the response time.
The AOC in testing is about 5ms gtg, which is a more realistic spec than the MPRT.
Most likely true. The various updated panels released this year don't seem to actually perform much better in most circumstances. I just try to be hopeful because faster response VA panels would be ideal for me.
I just want to see more HDR 600 monitors. Some level of local dimming with 10 bit processing... Too much to ask? HDR 400 is basically too insignificant to mention and the $2K+ pricing of the HDR1000+ monitors is out of control.
Strange that Gigabyte does not list the percentage of sRGB coverage.
"FreeSync 2 also doubles the color volume with support for wide color gamut color spaces and increased display brightness, enabling direct support of HDR-capable displays by video-card device driver and application software." -- wikipedia
I've never been able to check nor have I read that the DCI-P3 color space contains the complete sRGB color space. Here's an article linked from wikipedia: https://webkit.org/blog/6682/improving-color-on-th... As you can see from the 3D image (you have to scroll a bit), it does include most of the sRGB color space, but the sRGB blue values may be beyond what DCI-P3 can represent. Until I read differently, I'm going to assume no as that is the safe assumption.
I'm no expert, but if the screen is closer to you from any direction then you're more likely to look at that part as opposed to having it farther away and then having to re-focus your eyes to that greater distance.
This monitor is really good in gaming terms, with that exclusive control panel, you can configure the colors and the contrast until it's great for you so you can see the games and the multimedia really good.
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sircolby45 - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
I personally just don't get why you would want curved on a 27" monitor. On an Ultrawide sure, but too me it just doesn't make sense on a 16:9 that is only 27".JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
I think it's moreso a case of the curve being an innate spec of the panels used.Looking forward, take note of every time you see a curved monitor and whether it uses a VA-type panel. I'd say that or 8 or 9 times out of 10, it's a VA panel as opposed to any other panel type.
Monitor manufacturers probably want to market to less knowledgeable users that can readily see a big difference between the VA blacks/contrast levels vs more traditional TN or even IPS panels which arguably have a "very dark gray" as black. In stores, you'll generally see a bigger difference in contrast than you see in color gamut, and even on the box, it's generally favorable to market a "1:3000" contrast ratio rather than a "1:1000" contrast ratio--bigger number = better to less knowledgeable buyers.
It's possible the monitor manufacturers would opt for flat VA panels if they had the same contrast/refresh rate/availability/price as curved monitor-sized VA panels, but because that's just what's available from the panel manufacturer, that's essentially why the final monitor product ends up being curved, too.
DanNeely - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
The association between VA and curved for gaming panels - especially the ultrawide sort - is mostly down to Samsung. Between curved, high DPI, ultrawide, and HDR the monitor market is pulling in more ways than any of the panel makers can keep up with. Samsung has gone all in on curved VA.Dantte - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
This is the same panel and specs (except the curve: 1500 vs 1800) as the AOC AG273QCX which is currently available on Amazon for $299... Why would someone pay $160 premium for this panel?PeachNCream - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Military wanna-be man children types that live out their lives in first person shooters from the basements of their parents homes will pay extra for anything festooned in non-functionally beneficial LEDs that has the word tactical slapped somewhere in the marketing material.nathanddrews - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Same people that buy "Oakleys"?PeachNCream - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Yes them. Well, mom or dad probably paid for them since part time Uber only covers the cost of PC upgrades and Monster energy drinks.Operandi - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Except Oakleys are the real deal with R&D and manufacturing behind it, this monitor? Not so much.wr3zzz - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Oakley specs are the real deal for outdoor sports. There are a ton of Oakley knockoffs since its early days but the Oakley premium is not all marketing.Oakley apparels on the other hand, yeah I got your point.
mode_13h - Tuesday, September 24, 2019 - link
Wow, that takes me back. In the early 90's, overpriced Oakley sunglasses were one of those yuppie status symbols, like Air Jordan sneakers and the matching satin jacket.How'd that even come up?
SmCaudata - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
From TFTCentral"Samsung also have a 27" panel with a higher 2560 x 1440 resolution and 144Hz in production since Q2 2017. This has been used in some displays already, for instance the AOC AGON AG273QCX. Samsung are now planning to offer an update to this panel with a boosted 165Hz refresh rate, and this panel was expected to go in to production in Q1 2019."
With the refresh rate at 165, this may be an updated version. It may be better from a black > gray transition standpoint, which actually may be worth it to some. It could be almost no different, which as you said, would be silly to pay for.
Dantte - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Possibly its the new panel, I didnt catch the 165hz screen. However, the MPRT (useless spec) on the AOC and this panel are rated the same (1ms), so I doubt there is any increase in the response time.The AOC in testing is about 5ms gtg, which is a more realistic spec than the MPRT.
SmCaudata - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Most likely true. The various updated panels released this year don't seem to actually perform much better in most circumstances. I just try to be hopeful because faster response VA panels would be ideal for me.SmCaudata - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
I just want to see more HDR 600 monitors. Some level of local dimming with 10 bit processing... Too much to ask? HDR 400 is basically too insignificant to mention and the $2K+ pricing of the HDR1000+ monitors is out of control.Kaboose - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
27" 1440p is 108.79 PPI, not 91.79 PPI.91.79 PPI would be for a 32" 1440p, not 27".
ballsystemlord - Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - link
Strange that Gigabyte does not list the percentage of sRGB coverage."FreeSync 2 also doubles the color volume with support for wide color gamut color spaces and increased display brightness, enabling direct support of HDR-capable displays by video-card device driver and application software." -- wikipedia
GreenReaper - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link
If it does 90% of DCI-P3, it surely does ~100% of sRGB.ballsystemlord - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link
I've never been able to check nor have I read that the DCI-P3 color space contains the complete sRGB color space. Here's an article linked from wikipedia:https://webkit.org/blog/6682/improving-color-on-th...
As you can see from the 3D image (you have to scroll a bit), it does include most of the sRGB color space, but the sRGB blue values may be beyond what DCI-P3 can represent.
Until I read differently, I'm going to assume no as that is the safe assumption.
Dug - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link
"The panel also sports a 1500R curvature, which means that it provides a wider field of view than most 27-inch LCDs available today."I'm not a mathematician, but how do you get a wider field of view from 1500R curvature?
I thought that would require a wider monitor or more pixels.
ballsystemlord - Thursday, September 19, 2019 - link
I'm no expert, but if the screen is closer to you from any direction then you're more likely to look at that part as opposed to having it farther away and then having to re-focus your eyes to that greater distance.Maruan Moreno - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
This monitor is really good in gaming terms, with that exclusive control panel, you can configure the colors and the contrast until it's great for you so you can see the games and the multimedia really good.