its not clearly mentioned in manual as i m complete noob
i bought Sapphire HD5750 its not working properly on this mobo
power is on but there is no display
when i go to BIOS/Advanced/Chipset/Internal graphics mode and disable it still there is no display on screen
the bios get reset after some time
plzzz help
Another board that provides just one PS/2 port? I can understand zero or two, but one is silly. If your BIOS supports (and doesn't allow turning off) a USB keyboard, then why do you need a PS/2 port?
On the other hand, if you want to support those of us running multiple machines from a single keyboard/mouse/video display, then why assume that we're running (or want to upgrade to) a weird KVM switch that uses a PS/2 keyboard but USB mouse?
If someone wants two more USB ports on the back, then USB brackets are cheap and readily available.
Other than that, this looks like a pretty decent board. I like the ditching of the IDE (I can always put an old IDE drive in an external enclosure if I really need to access it) and floppy connectors, but appreciate not having my (few) PCI cards made obsolete.
Still, the single PS/2 port is a deal-breaker for me.
I agree wholeheartedly! Just why are we getting rid of PS2? Manufacturers have been penalizing kvm users for quite some time. I've gone through four switches that somehow just don't quite completely work with my wife's (seemingly) simple home/work pc setup. And don't get me started on Logitech..
Anyway, I don't see where cost is an issue; I would much rather give up a useless analog audio out or an ancient serial port or paralell before I'd get rid of a PS2 port. My wife's work PC has no PS2 ports at all..which has caused me no end of frustration. AND it has DVI integrated but no VGA! I'm getting angrier just thinking about it.
Thanks for mentioning the DVI. I've got a machine like that too. The graphics came with a DVI to VGA adaptor, but it sticks out the back pretty far.
At least it screws in, so it won't fall out like the PS/2 cables do when you have to use a 2-1 PS/2 adaptor.
However, there are a lot of us who, for a variety of reasons, still use CRTs. One reason is the KVM issue. Another is the colour gamut. And then there is the affordable resolution. My antique (got it used in 2003) 21" Dell Trinitron gives better colours and more pixels on screen than any LCD display I can afford.
People are always complaining about the problems with LCD displays - gamers, artists, etc.. I've got nothing against them for spreadsheets, etc., but they've got some ways to go (still) to catch up with what a reasonable CRT can do.
There is an NDA on these boards but they are being sold in Australia for a few weeks now. Although the Asus models have sold out there are a couple of Gigabyte boards listed with the 785 chipset. The UD3H and UD3P
I was wondering about that too. Doesn't an NDA hurt them in this situation? Real review sites can't publish details, but any Joe who wants to can buy the board and blog a "review" which may or may not be well done but will see traffic just because it is there.
So, remind me again, why are 3 PCI slots too much? A quick check on newegg shows that there are a ton more expansion cards in PCI than PCIe. Progress is good when there are actual improvements, but simply for the sake of progess, its pretty dumb.
3 PCI it's not so many: really only two of them will be availaible after installing one high end card. If you install two cards in crossfire so only 1 PCI can be used. TV Tuners are most of all PCI only specially some unique models, Creative X-Fi Elite Pro also PCI only, but also cheaper X-Fi PCI models I think nobody will change for PCI-E X-Fi Titaniums, and a lot of other PCI devices, specially in science, business and others.
Does chipset allow concurrent use of 2 digital video outputs (HDMI and DVI)? It was a big flaw in 790GX. The current price gap between 30" LCDs and 19"-24" models makes dual monitor setup cheaper while having more screen pixels.
No, you cannot have two concurrent digital outputs on this chipset. That said, it is fully capable of it, but it will never happen with the current DRM climate in the Entertainment industry and Congress here in the states.
Hi
I have been extremely curious about one thing that I have heard nothing about so far. Articles have mentioned the hybrid crossfire, but its implementation so far has a left lot to be desired. I want to know what graphics cards will be available this time (hopefully more than two models will be compatible.) I have a 790gx that I thought of using, but I understand that combination with an HD3450 would be useless for gaming. Plus it is ATX and I want a micro board.
I want to build an htpc and this board would do nicely, but I want to game a bit as well. I'm hoping a HD4650 or 4670 would do hybrid crossfire, but possibly with onboard plus a 4350 would be sufficient? What do you think?
I know, that is a palms on the face event. I let ASUS know a couple of days ago that these silkscreened phrases just need to be dropped off the board. That feature will auto overclock the GPU by a few percent based on load conditions.
The latest P55 board has "ProbeIT" in one inch letters below the memory slots among other things, well, I had to tell them that it appears they are trying to corner the proctologist market with that slogan.
It appears it will only get worse as a couple of boards from other manufacturers just arrived with even larger non-descriptive slogans plastered all over their boards.
I wish they'd release a true Quad CrossfireX PCI-e x16 (electronic+physical) with Hybrid CrossfireX support motherboard soon... just in time for the HD5XXX series. Is it really that hard to do or unfeasible? c",)
I was thinking of mATX or even smaller form factor for 785G, since 785G is rumored to be the first chipset that'll provide flawless HD playback. I assume there will be a chopped down version of this board, but I have to say this board looks a little awkward.
785G launch is an interesting one in that it brings a conflict of interest within the same company. If the chipset is too successful, AMD can jeopardize its low-end GPU sales. But on the other hand, this chipset can be a big help for AMD's CPU division since there is no equivalent on Intel platform.
I'm looking forward to its performance. Thank you for sharing the info and insight.
There will be plenty of uATX motherboards based off this chipset with both DDR3 and DDR2 options. Right now I have three uATX boards and four ATX boards in-house. Pricing should start around $85 and go up to $115 at launch, expect those to drop by $10 or so later on in the fall. If a couple of remaining driver problems are fixed, this will be a great HTPC platform, equal to the NV9300 or better in some areas.
As stated in the blog, we are under an NDA now and cannot provide test results until that lifts, which will be in early August. ;) Believe me, we asked numerous times to provide a short update to the original article with the new driver set.
You can connect four monitors to 2 4890s and still reap the benefits of Crossfire on your primary display for gaming. A single 4890 obsolesces any benefit the integrated would add, unless they do the power saving shut off thingy like hybrid SLI.
Yes but this requires disabling/enabling CF in the control panel every time I want to either game or use dual monitor. And at that point I wouldn't be able to do both at the same time (if CF is anything like SLI).
I don't think Crossfire is like SLi In that regard.
It kind of also depends on what you want the other display to be doing while you are running a game.
Now they call it CrossfireX and also nVidia allows for two active displays in Sli as well. Although I think CFX is still ahead of Sli in that regard.
Personally I want to know how many displays can be active on-board, if one Digital and one Analog, that is fine by me, there is tons of stuff that board would be good for, not the least of which is 3D dual projection or display :)
Actually if it's anything like the 780G you can have a 4 screens connected, 2 to a discrete graphics card and 2 to the integrated graphics card.
Of course you could also grab a PCI-E x1 Graphics Card and add another 2 monitors and another x16 graphics card for another 2 monitors, plus you can fill up those 3 pci cards with more graphics cards for another 6 monitors tops.
So the count is at 14 screens (assuming graphics card with dual ramdacs) :P
yeah, those heatsinks are pretty cool looking. I hate when they make PC components look so cool that I don't want to hide them in my case and actually use them!
I really looking forward for this ore simulair board to replace my A8N5X S939 board in my HTPC
As i have 2 TV cards and one XONAR D1 soundcard in PCI format and one TV card in PCIe format.
So for me and i think for lots of other people this board will do just fine
My question is when are we going to see a transition to mostly PCIe? Both serve the same purpose, so as long as both are widely used you will have these debates over how many and what placement of each type of slot.
Why is it fail? Would you rather have them replace it with? I'm glad to see 3 PCI slots. It means I can actually add more cards instead of desperately trying to fill up 3 PCI-E x 1. But that's just me; I'm still using an IDE DVD burner after all.
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naGAtO - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - link
its not clearly mentioned in manual as i m complete noobi bought Sapphire HD5750 its not working properly on this mobo
power is on but there is no display
when i go to BIOS/Advanced/Chipset/Internal graphics mode and disable it still there is no display on screen
the bios get reset after some time
plzzz help
bandeja - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link
How do i enable both integrated graphics and my pci-express card simultaneously (in windows 7).When i choose one as the primary POST dispaly in BIOS, it seems to disable the other one!
Is it possible to use both simultaneously. I used to have a motherboard that disabled the onboard DVI whenever i installed a PCI-E card.
bandeja - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link
forget that. yes it does work, it decided to work after i posted the message !bandeja - Thursday, September 3, 2009 - link
ok, i take it back again - i can't seem to get it to work. It was working before automatically on windows 7.How i have vista installed and it just won't run both together.
Both adapters are in device manager but it says my GeForce 8800 GT has some problems.
I can disable onboard and the GeForce works fine on its own..
Fergy - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
How would you do that? I haven't seen any 4GB modules for a normal price(4 4GB modules for less than 400 dollar)
garydale - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
When they say "support", they don't mean financially. :)garydale - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
Another board that provides just one PS/2 port? I can understand zero or two, but one is silly. If your BIOS supports (and doesn't allow turning off) a USB keyboard, then why do you need a PS/2 port?On the other hand, if you want to support those of us running multiple machines from a single keyboard/mouse/video display, then why assume that we're running (or want to upgrade to) a weird KVM switch that uses a PS/2 keyboard but USB mouse?
If someone wants two more USB ports on the back, then USB brackets are cheap and readily available.
Other than that, this looks like a pretty decent board. I like the ditching of the IDE (I can always put an old IDE drive in an external enclosure if I really need to access it) and floppy connectors, but appreciate not having my (few) PCI cards made obsolete.
Still, the single PS/2 port is a deal-breaker for me.
buzznut - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
I agree wholeheartedly! Just why are we getting rid of PS2? Manufacturers have been penalizing kvm users for quite some time. I've gone through four switches that somehow just don't quite completely work with my wife's (seemingly) simple home/work pc setup. And don't get me started on Logitech..Anyway, I don't see where cost is an issue; I would much rather give up a useless analog audio out or an ancient serial port or paralell before I'd get rid of a PS2 port. My wife's work PC has no PS2 ports at all..which has caused me no end of frustration. AND it has DVI integrated but no VGA! I'm getting angrier just thinking about it.
garydale - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Thanks for mentioning the DVI. I've got a machine like that too. The graphics came with a DVI to VGA adaptor, but it sticks out the back pretty far.At least it screws in, so it won't fall out like the PS/2 cables do when you have to use a 2-1 PS/2 adaptor.
However, there are a lot of us who, for a variety of reasons, still use CRTs. One reason is the KVM issue. Another is the colour gamut. And then there is the affordable resolution. My antique (got it used in 2003) 21" Dell Trinitron gives better colours and more pixels on screen than any LCD display I can afford.
People are always complaining about the problems with LCD displays - gamers, artists, etc.. I've got nothing against them for spreadsheets, etc., but they've got some ways to go (still) to catch up with what a reasonable CRT can do.
cactusdog - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
There is an NDA on these boards but they are being sold in Australia for a few weeks now. Although the Asus models have sold out there are a couple of Gigabyte boards listed with the 785 chipset. The UD3H and UD3PIf you're interested they can be found here:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=prod...">http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mai...Path=138...
strikeback03 - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
I was wondering about that too. Doesn't an NDA hurt them in this situation? Real review sites can't publish details, but any Joe who wants to can buy the board and blog a "review" which may or may not be well done but will see traffic just because it is there.cactusdog - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
....Oh the other model is the GA-MA785GPM-UD2Hhttp://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=prod...">http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mai...Path=138...
Not the UD3P...but yeh 2 models for sale.
doncerdo - Sunday, July 26, 2009 - link
So, remind me again, why are 3 PCI slots too much? A quick check on newegg shows that there are a ton more expansion cards in PCI than PCIe. Progress is good when there are actual improvements, but simply for the sake of progess, its pretty dumb.Rocket321 - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
I've always thought "sideport" sounded like something dirty....It makes me giggle.Lanska - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
3 PCI it's not so many: really only two of them will be availaible after installing one high end card. If you install two cards in crossfire so only 1 PCI can be used. TV Tuners are most of all PCI only specially some unique models, Creative X-Fi Elite Pro also PCI only, but also cheaper X-Fi PCI models I think nobody will change for PCI-E X-Fi Titaniums, and a lot of other PCI devices, specially in science, business and others.will792 - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
Does chipset allow concurrent use of 2 digital video outputs (HDMI and DVI)? It was a big flaw in 790GX. The current price gap between 30" LCDs and 19"-24" models makes dual monitor setup cheaper while having more screen pixels.Gary Key - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
No, you cannot have two concurrent digital outputs on this chipset. That said, it is fully capable of it, but it will never happen with the current DRM climate in the Entertainment industry and Congress here in the states.will792 - Sunday, July 26, 2009 - link
Fail to follow any link to DRM. All video cards allow 2 digital outputs that can be used concurrently so integrated video should do the same.buzznut - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
HiI have been extremely curious about one thing that I have heard nothing about so far. Articles have mentioned the hybrid crossfire, but its implementation so far has a left lot to be desired. I want to know what graphics cards will be available this time (hopefully more than two models will be compatible.) I have a 790gx that I thought of using, but I understand that combination with an HD3450 would be useless for gaming. Plus it is ATX and I want a micro board.
I want to build an htpc and this board would do nicely, but I want to game a bit as well. I'm hoping a HD4650 or 4670 would do hybrid crossfire, but possibly with onboard plus a 4350 would be sufficient? What do you think?
johnsonx - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
What does GPU NOS signify?AlB80 - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
Nothing, just dust."The patented AI NOS (Non-delay Overclocking System) technology."
Gary Key - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
I know, that is a palms on the face event. I let ASUS know a couple of days ago that these silkscreened phrases just need to be dropped off the board. That feature will auto overclock the GPU by a few percent based on load conditions.The latest P55 board has "ProbeIT" in one inch letters below the memory slots among other things, well, I had to tell them that it appears they are trying to corner the proctologist market with that slogan.
It appears it will only get worse as a couple of boards from other manufacturers just arrived with even larger non-descriptive slogans plastered all over their boards.
steelicon - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
Maybe similar to this: ASUS AI NOS (Non-delay O/C System)steelicon - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
I wish they'd release a true Quad CrossfireX PCI-e x16 (electronic+physical) with Hybrid CrossfireX support motherboard soon... just in time for the HD5XXX series. Is it really that hard to do or unfeasible? c",)lopri - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
I was thinking of mATX or even smaller form factor for 785G, since 785G is rumored to be the first chipset that'll provide flawless HD playback. I assume there will be a chopped down version of this board, but I have to say this board looks a little awkward.785G launch is an interesting one in that it brings a conflict of interest within the same company. If the chipset is too successful, AMD can jeopardize its low-end GPU sales. But on the other hand, this chipset can be a big help for AMD's CPU division since there is no equivalent on Intel platform.
I'm looking forward to its performance. Thank you for sharing the info and insight.
Gary Key - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
There will be plenty of uATX motherboards based off this chipset with both DDR3 and DDR2 options. Right now I have three uATX boards and four ATX boards in-house. Pricing should start around $85 and go up to $115 at launch, expect those to drop by $10 or so later on in the fall. If a couple of remaining driver problems are fixed, this will be a great HTPC platform, equal to the NV9300 or better in some areas.cghebert - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - link
Gary,Any mini-ITX 785g boards on the horizon? I think they would sell like hotcakes.
snakeoil - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
last time you ''kind of'' reviewed the motherboard as you said.i hope this site doesn't become a ''kind of'' review place.
yes - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
right, is this supposed to be a computer babes site?Gary Key - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
As stated in the blog, we are under an NDA now and cannot provide test results until that lifts, which will be in early August. ;) Believe me, we asked numerous times to provide a short update to the original article with the new driver set.wicko - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
With a board like this, could I have dual monitors, 1 on a pair of 4890's in CF, and 1 off the integrated?SirKronan - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
You can connect four monitors to 2 4890s and still reap the benefits of Crossfire on your primary display for gaming. A single 4890 obsolesces any benefit the integrated would add, unless they do the power saving shut off thingy like hybrid SLI.wicko - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
Yes but this requires disabling/enabling CF in the control panel every time I want to either game or use dual monitor. And at that point I wouldn't be able to do both at the same time (if CF is anything like SLI).nubie - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
I don't think Crossfire is like SLi In that regard.It kind of also depends on what you want the other display to be doing while you are running a game.
Now they call it CrossfireX and also nVidia allows for two active displays in Sli as well. Although I think CFX is still ahead of Sli in that regard.
Personally I want to know how many displays can be active on-board, if one Digital and one Analog, that is fine by me, there is tons of stuff that board would be good for, not the least of which is 3D dual projection or display :)
setzer - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
Actually if it's anything like the 780G you can have a 4 screens connected, 2 to a discrete graphics card and 2 to the integrated graphics card.Of course you could also grab a PCI-E x1 Graphics Card and add another 2 monitors and another x16 graphics card for another 2 monitors, plus you can fill up those 3 pci cards with more graphics cards for another 6 monitors tops.
So the count is at 14 screens (assuming graphics card with dual ramdacs) :P
wicko - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
Okay now you're just talkin crazy :pI just want to have dual monitor with crossfire without having to disable CF in software. I know with SLI I had to do that.
Goty - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
That board is shmexy.MonkeyPaw - Saturday, July 25, 2009 - link
yeah, those heatsinks are pretty cool looking. I hate when they make PC components look so cool that I don't want to hide them in my case and actually use them!DotNetGuru - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
3 PCI slots... WTF?!?1 PCI slot may be 1 too many, but 3 is unbelievable.
Havor - Sunday, July 26, 2009 - link
3x PCI on a board like this is perfect imoI really looking forward for this ore simulair board to replace my A8N5X S939 board in my HTPC
As i have 2 TV cards and one XONAR D1 soundcard in PCI format and one TV card in PCIe format.
So for me and i think for lots of other people this board will do just fine
strikeback03 - Monday, July 27, 2009 - link
My question is when are we going to see a transition to mostly PCIe? Both serve the same purpose, so as long as both are widely used you will have these debates over how many and what placement of each type of slot.Ryun - Friday, July 24, 2009 - link
Why is it fail? Would you rather have them replace it with? I'm glad to see 3 PCI slots. It means I can actually add more cards instead of desperately trying to fill up 3 PCI-E x 1. But that's just me; I'm still using an IDE DVD burner after all.