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  • Shadow7037932 - Thursday, July 2, 2015 - link

    >I can’t imagine there are too many businesses that want to move to Windows 10 on day one.

    Heh. I'd imagine most businesses will wait for at least 6+ months if not longer.
  • WorldWithoutMadness - Thursday, July 2, 2015 - link

    This lines cracked me up.
    "The fast ring is more likely to have bugs, and the slow ring should be a bit more stable"
    Knowing MS, something will break within 3 months.
  • close - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    There's no way ANY company can roll out a modern OS and not break anything at some point. Things are getting too complex and the demands are a lot higher than 20 years ago. So your "knowing MS" comment is at best misleading.

    You name one company who managed such a release without breaking something and I will just give you a counter-example to prove it wrong. This is in case your comment was more than just ignorance.
  • KPOM - Monday, July 6, 2015 - link

    True, but they would likely want to start testing Windows 10 with the actual build rather than the beta. I'm guessing a lot of companies will upgrade directly from Windows 7 to Windows 10 if it proves to be stable and compatible with legacy hardware.
  • alcalde - Thursday, July 9, 2015 - link

    Linux rolls out without breaking things; Red Hat and SUSE don't "break within 3 months".
  • dave_the_nerd - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    The slow blade penetrates the shield.
  • rangerdavid - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    Well played. I'd upvote if I could...
  • digitalrefuse - Thursday, July 2, 2015 - link

    Most of the larger corporations I deal with started testing Windows 10 about 3-4 months ago, and are pretty intensely testing it. That being said, most enterprise customers are years away from moving to 10 in production. Heck, the number of big companies and government agencies still running Windows XP on hundreds or even thousands of systems is terrifying...
  • piiman - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    "Most of the larger corporations I deal with started testing Windows 10 about 3-4 months ago,"

    Most large companies NEVER move to a new OS when its released. They wait years.
  • wolrah - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    "Most large companies NEVER move to a new OS when its released. They wait years."

    "Started testing" != intend to migrate immediately.

    Everyone responsible for corporate networks should be testing Windows 10 already. If they're not, they're not doing their jobs. You need to know what works and what doesn't, so you can plan to either fix or replace the parts that don't work before it becomes a critical issue.

    You can't just sit there refusing to upgrade forever, the idiocy surrounding XP and IE6 with a lot of enterprise type stuff should have taught anyone paying attention that even though you of course shouldn't be upgrading immediately you will have to move on eventually and if you're not planning for that you aren't doing it right.
  • sorten - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    "Everyone responsible for corporate networks should be testing Windows 10 already"

    I agree. They will have BYOD devices on W10 within a month of release.
  • eek2121 - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    Networking != Operating Systems/Computer Hardware. Or as a certain someone said...What goes on 'down below' doesn't matter to things 'up above'.
  • Paul Tarnowski - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Then again, small businesses just running with Pro are bound to take up the offer of having their computers stay updated without the cost of buying the upgrade. It's not something I see happening sooner than the second quarter of 2016 in a managed environment, but those businesses where the main person responsible is the one using the computer(s) are going to do it way sooner.
  • eek2121 - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    Most large companies have to pay for the upgrade. It isn't free. Only consumers and small businesses get a free upgrade.
  • Nightraptor - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    I am an attorney at a small law firm with five attorneys and ten support staff. Given that we aren't large enough for a staff person I am the default IT guy. Given the one year free upgrade window I already have the previews running on a personal tablet and desktop. I will upgrade my work laptop as soon as the final build is released and will upgrade the rest of the office as soon as I am comfortable that all our mission critical software still works.
  • ShieTar - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Windows 7 extended support lasts until 2020, I can't see many large businesses moving to Win 10 before that.
  • sorten - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Our large company moved to W8 a year after release. Most companies will move within a couple of years.
  • piroroadkill - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Less than a month and they're still fixing problems.

    It seems to me they should delay the launch, in all honesty. If it's not even done yet, and maybe it will go gold in a couple of weeks, how is that enough time for an OEM to get the final build and build images around it?

    This is a clusterfuck.
  • Theophany - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Are you having issues with W10 then? My experience over the last fortnight has been stable as you like, seems to me like it's pretty much ready for sale for what your average consumer will be using it for. It's no less ready than Yosemite was a month prior to its launch. 'Clusterfuck' seems like an inordinately strong adjective...
  • suckmine - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    5.1 audio doesn't even work on Realtek cards right now. It's busted.
  • redheadturkey - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Realtek audio sucks, IMHO. I haven't used the onboard sound card in almost three years, I use a roccat Kave XTD real 5.1 surround sound usb headset.
  • eek2121 - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    Works fine for me...
  • nightbringer57 - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Well, even a week before release, they will still be fixing problems. And you know, it's quite likely they'll be fixing problems on it for the first five years after its release.
  • piiman - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    "Well, even a week before release, they will still be fixing problems. And you know, it's quite likely they'll be fixing problems on it for the first five years after its release."

    Correct because its LARGE and complex code that supports million of different machines. They put out patches every month and will continue to do so. What's you answer, never release another OS because they are basically never done? Name one OS that doesn't fix and update on a regular basis? If you can find one I suggest you never use it.
  • sorten - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    And a month after release they'll still be fixing problems. Just like every other OS vendor.
  • bug77 - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Just make the final ISO available on bittorrent and be done with it. That's what bittorrent was written for in the first place.

    I would love to do an online update, but I'm afraid I'd need a Microsoft account for that.
  • Notmyusualid - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Yep, bit torrent would be ideal for distributing somthing like this.
  • simard57 - Saturday, July 4, 2015 - link

    <sarcasrm> yeah -- Nothing could go wrong with that! </sarcasm>
  • piiman - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    "but I'm afraid I'd need a Microsoft account for that."
    And that scares you because?
  • redheadturkey - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    If you have a Hotmail or Outlook account it works just as well as a microsft account. I am using my hotmail I have had for ten years.
  • bug77 - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    It doesn't scare me, but I chose not to use Microsoft's services. And in this instance I don't want to log into my home PC and have them looking over my shoulder.
  • Gigaplex - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Meanwhile my laptop is stuck on build 10030, it doesn't see any of the new builds. I'm definitely on the Fast ring. If the update system can't even update, then bug fix releases aren't much reassurance.
  • bug77 - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    Move to slow ring and then back to fast. That did it in my case.
  • simard57 - Saturday, July 4, 2015 - link

    I had to download the ISO for 10162 to upgrade. The Asus T100 just didn't have enough free space
  • ruano23 - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    ¿How much is paid to write news about Microsoft ?
  • Grooveriding - Friday, July 3, 2015 - link

    I didn't see any mention of when ISOs will be released for us to do fresh installs. As well still no mention of how existing 8/8.1 users will get keys to install a fresh copy of Windows 10.

    Seems like a total disaster of a rollout with all this staggering and still no answers to all use cases for taking the upgrade.
  • simard57 - Saturday, July 4, 2015 - link

    the ISO for build 10162 is available at
    http://microsoft-news.com/download-windows-10-buil...
  • eek2121 - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    I've been using Windows 10 since the beginning. It's come a long way. The latest builds are quite amazing. Even 2 builds ago things were buggy as hell, but somehow they fixed most of that.
  • justaviking - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    I'm sure this is a dumb question, but...

    Is there any *need* to do a Windows 10 reservation?

    I assume you can do nothing, but still get Win 10 in October if you want. True?
  • justaviking - Monday, July 6, 2015 - link

    Sorry about the duplicate entry.

    The first one (this one) didn't show up for a long time, so I re-posted. Now this one appeared well *after* my second entry. Has that every happened to anyone else, or am I that special?
  • justaviking - Sunday, July 5, 2015 - link

    I *assume* you can ignore all the Win 10 "reservation" stuff, but still get it later - free - if you want to (until end of July 2016). True?

    What's the point of responding to the "Get Windows 10" advertisement in your task bar? Just to get it sooner?

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