Origin's Genesis: Flagship Bling
by Dustin Sklavos on April 2, 2011 2:00 PM ESTGaming Performance
Of course, while the Origin Genesis is attractive and fun to run tests on, its true stated purpose is gaming and on that front it's not unreasonable to expect it should put up a good fight. What will be of particular interest is seeing how well the SLI'd GTX 560 Ti's compete with NVIDIA's new flagship, the dual-GPU GeForce GTX 590.
In games that are principally shader-limited, the Genesis falls in about where you'd expect it to in our "high" preset testing. When we move to the "ultra" presets, the relative strengths and weaknesses of its graphics solution should become more readily apparent.
As you can see, we're still fairly CPU-bound. These kinds of gaming solutions really aren't appropriate for gamers using a 1080p screen. A single Radeon HD 5870 (or 6870) or GeForce GTX 560 Ti (or 570 or 580) is really ample for anyone running up to 1920x1200, as I can attest in personal experience. So since these solutions are just too much for running in 1080p, let's see how they fare in ultra high resolution surround settings.
It's hard not to find these results frankly academic. While the GTX 590 always holds a decent lead (and stands to increase that lead with the application of anti-aliasing in some cases), it's awfully hard to argue the 590 as being $250+ better than a pair of GTX 560 Ti's. The oddball in the bunch is the STALKER result, which gets freakishly inflated during the "Night" portion of the benchmark. Other results remain fairly in line with the GTX 590's performance. You'll want to check my review of the iBuyPower LAN Warrior II to read about that along with just how fraught with difficulty (and believe me, it's extremely so) getting NVIDIA Surround to run properly can be.
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JarredWalton - Sunday, April 3, 2011 - link
And I've got an i7-965 Extreme that won't run reliably at 4.0GHz without excessive voltage. It's very likely in my experience overclocking that they needed the voltage boost to get 4.5GHz stable.I remember the old Celeron 300A days: "All of these can overclock to 450MHz just by changing the bus, and then you have the equivalent of a Pentium II 450 for less than half the price!"
Guess what? Between myself and a couple friends, we bought about ten 300A CPUs. One would do 504MHz (112MHz FSB), one more would run at 450MHz without trouble. Two would boot 450 but were unstable if you wanted the PC to run 24/7. The remaining six all topped out at 374MHz (83 FSB). I've seen similar things on a lot of "guaranteed overclocks" during the years, and never mind the "100% stable" overclocks I've had that started having problems after 6-12 months.
Actually, that last is one reason to buy a system from some place like Origin. If you get their 3-year warranty and the system overclock starts going AWOL after a year or 18 months, you're still covered. I've had at least five somewhat recent CPUs peter out and die on me after running apparently fine for a year or more. (Pentium D 820, Pentium D 920, Athlon 3200+, Athlon X2 3800+, and Athlon X2 5000+ all come to mind.) So basically, I support what Assimilator said, which is in essence: YMMV.
tsekh - Sunday, April 3, 2011 - link
As you said, yours is a i7-965. For the i7-2600k's, 4Ghz OC is like a walk in the park in gneral.erple2 - Tuesday, April 5, 2011 - link
Sometimes, the park is filled with dog poo, however. So that walk isn't so easy to do without being very careful, and upping the voltage.Again, not all i7-2600k's will run at 4 GHz with stock everything. Statistics tells me quite well that you can't say "all" without testing every single last one out there. Which I'm pretty sure you haven't. Unless you're that jerk that broke into my house the other day to test my i7-2600K.
If you continue to claim how it's easy to do for "most" of these SB chips, then I'll continue to pick nits about how "most" or "many" or "almost all" does not equal "all".
Chris Simmo - Sunday, April 3, 2011 - link
@tsekhI have built 4 i7 2600K systems @ 4.8GHz and have been able to build them with as little as 1.28v peak and load line on regular as well, but yes there are difficult chips. The worst 1 has had to have 1.42v with load line on high. 4 aren’t very many, but they are fluctuating a bit in voltage with high overclocks applied. The CPU’s had all power saving features enabled too. All C states
I work for a little computer shop and our flag ship 'off the shelf' system uses a Sabertooth P67, 16GB RAM, 120Gb Corsair SSD, 2TB Storage drive, Bluray combo, a HD6970 in an Antec 900 2 case with a GW 900w PSU and a Corsair H70.
If the Asetek cooler is the OEM cooler, those temps don't seem to compare to the Corsair H70. Even on the 1.42v i7 2600k system under Linx load only got to 68c max Core temps (not package) I'm guessing there is something different somewhere then......May not have to do with the cooler, maybe aircon or something
BigBadBiologist - Saturday, April 2, 2011 - link
I'm not sure why, but the Rosewill card reader sticks out like a sore thumb to me.tipoo - Saturday, April 2, 2011 - link
Its brushed metal whereas everything else is matteheadbox - Saturday, April 2, 2011 - link
So what exactly is a computer boutique? A shop that assembles off the shelf parts? Does Origin manufacture anything original at all? And $2,000+ for a cheap plastic case with kiddie windows and bling lights? Wow... PC makers just haven't caught on yet.wumpus - Saturday, April 2, 2011 - link
If I really want to feel old, I'll just think about how long Alienware has been in business. I think back when I bought an 386sx from ALR, they actually designed the thing, and often had some of the fastest machines around (whitebox computers caught up within a year or so).KoolAidMan1 - Saturday, April 2, 2011 - link
The Corsair 600T is actually a really good case. What case do you suggest that they use? I personally have a hard time recommending much outside of the Corsair and Silverstone cases.rscoot - Monday, April 4, 2011 - link
Personally, I'm more of a fan of the Corsair 800D than the 600T.