MSI GT72 Dominator Pro LCD: Still TN (on Most Models)

Unlike the GS60 with its High DPI 3K display, or even the GE60 with its 1080p IPS panel, most of the GT72 continues to use a TN LCD. It’s a decent quality TN panel, but out of the box the colors are very far from accurate, with very noticeable blue shifts (even if you don’t know what to look for). In fact, the overblown blues combined with underpowered reds mean that if you want to calibrate for 200 nits you have to run the LCD at close to 100% brightness. Which I do most of the time when I’m plugged in anyway, but it doesn’t help battery life. The one saving grace is that the panel is anti-glare, and other than the usual TN problems with viewing the display from above or below, the LCD works well enough.

I’d love to see MSI put a higher quality IPS panel into the entire GT72 line, but either the price of the IPS panel used in the Dominator Pro-444/445 is really high or perhaps supply is limited right now. Of course, MSI put a lot of money into the SSD array, so spending an extra $100-$200 on a quality IPS panel shouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility. Anyway, we'll see if it's possible to get one of the IPS models for some additional testing, but we have to test what we receive.

It’s unfortunate that most of the High DPI (and thus IPS) panels are targeting 15.6" and smaller laptops, as the GTX 980M could actually drive a QHD or perhaps even 3K/4K at native resolution and still have enough performance for gaming, so hopefully one of the LCD manufacturers can cater to this market. The end of TN continues to creep ever closer, and as far as I’m concerned it can’t come soon enough.

Display - Max Brightness

Display - Black Levels

Display - Contrast Ratio

Display - White Point

Uncalibrated, the maximum white level of 286 cd/m2 is lower than we typically see, which is again unfortunate. The black level of 0.288 nits at max brightness does result in a 1000:1 contrast ratio however, which is good for an anti-glare notebook display. The average CCT is actually almost laughable; the ideal is 6504K, but uncalibrated the GT72 LCD measures over twice that at 13279K. That brings us to the full uncalibrated results:

Display - Grayscale Accuracy

Display - Gamut Accuracy

Display - Saturation Accuracy

Display - GMB Accuracy

There’s really not much to say about the uncalibrated colors other than that they’re quite bad and at times border on terrible. Greyscale has an average Delta E 2000 of 12, gamut is at 5, saturations are 6, and Gretag Macbeth is back up to more than 11. The errors in color accuracy are quite noticeable if you look for them, though for many people it probably doesn’t matter much.

The good news is that post-calibration most of the errors are gone, or at least at the point where only the most critical eye will see them. Greyscale Delta E is down to 0.9, which is essentially perfect. The gamut and saturations are at 1.7, and the GMB is down to 1.6 overall. The largest errors are in shades of blue and orange, and even those are below 4.0 so there’s not much to complain about. We still have a few minor issues with the gamma curve not being quite flat, but if you’re okay with a TN panel this is about as good as you’ll find in a consumer notebook (post-calibration at least).

While using a camera to take a picture of an LCD is a less than perfect solution, the following images should give you an idea of how dramatic the shift in colors is with calibration. I set my camera to manual controls with "cloudy" white balance to mitigate the auto white balance trying to correct for the colors, and you can see quite clearly the blue shift with the uncalibrated colors:


Uncalibrated on the left, calibrated on the right.

That said, as a gaming notebook, I don’t find the colors to be all that problematic -- you're mostly going to be worried about the game play and whether the LCD is too blue doesn't really matter. On the other hand, if you're looking for something that's more of a mobile workstation (but you don't need/want a Quadro GPU), you'll almost certainly want an IPS panel.

Again, XoticPC and other resellers have the Dominator Pro-444 and Dominator Pro-445 with IPS panels, and Amazon sells the Pro-444 and Pro-445 as well, but they're both very expensive. But if you're already eyeing the Pro-208 that we're reviewing, the extra $400 gets you a faster CPU along with the LCD upgrade, so it might be worth a shot. Or you could just buy an external IPS panel for when you're "docked" for about half the price of the upgrade and call it a day.

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  • Samus - Tuesday, March 10, 2015 - link

    nobody puts a 17" "laptop" on their lap. don't be tricked. this doesn't even call itself a laptop. it's a notebook/DTR and it goes on a table :)
  • frodbonzi - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    Once you're going this route, I don't see why you wouldn't go for the "behemoth" dual-GPU notebooks... You can get the Alienware 18 fully loaded for between $3500-$4000 nowadays (but not from Dell), and it beats the pants off this one... and if you want a few weeks, I'm sure it will refresh to dual 980s...
  • frodbonzi - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    want = wait... terrible spelling...
  • frodbonzi - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    And for thsoe who don't believe me...
    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Alienware-18-i7-4940MX-32GB...
  • Azured - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    That's used. I'm sure they will update to the 980s soon, but I doubt you'll have much luck finding a used one right afterwards...
  • frodbonzi - Thursday, November 13, 2014 - link

    Ebay... the great leveller... Dell sells refurbished ones pretty quickly... and they can be dramatically cheaper...
  • ArthurG - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    small correction to the article, Gigabyte P35X V3 (15.6 FHD model) comes with 980M... the full glory 8GB GDDR5 version !
  • DigitalFreak - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - link

    Never understood why they put 8GB on a GPU attached to a 1080p display. Yet I can't buy a GTX 980 desktop card with 8GB which might actually be useful with a 4k monitor.
  • watzupken - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    I agree that gaming laptops are not for everyone. For some of us, gaming laptop is beneficial due to,
    1) Mobility. I have to say they are not light, but compared to desktops, they are definitely a better choice.
    2) For me, it's also the ease of troubleshooting. If something is wrong with the laptop, I can send the laptop for servicing easier due to the great after sales service for my laptop.
    Understandably, it's pricey and may be inferior as oppose to their desktop counterparts, but they do exist for a limited market.
  • Spigsy - Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - link

    I'm also one of those niche users- having a modest home and 3 kids, I've been using a Clevo P170 for the last couple of years for my gaming and image editing and it serves me admirably. There could be ways and means of squeezing in a desktop system, but by the time you take the peripherals into account the laptop is by far the tidier option, and far easier to tuck away when it gets ignored for a week at a time. It's easily hooked to the TV and sound system with HDMI when they're in bed, too.

    Great review, but as I'm running a 7970M and am genuinely interested in a 980m laptop it's a little disappointing that there are no AMD cards in the gaming test setup for comparison. I'll just have to do a bit of cross referencing!

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