We’ve written about Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974) before, for those unfamiliar, this is Qualcomm’s new flagship SoC with four Krait 400 CPUs at up to 2.3 GHz, Adreno 330 graphics, and the latest modem IP block with Category 4 LTE. Qualcomm is finally ready to show off MSM8974 performance on final silicon and board support software, and invited us and a few other publications out to San Francisco for a day of benchmarking and poking around. We looked at MSM8974 on both the familiar MSM8974 MDP/T, a development tablet used both by Qualcomm and 3rd parties to develop drivers and platform support, and the MSM8974 MDP phone, both of which have been publicly announced for some time now.

The tablet MDP is what you’d expect, an engineering platform designed for Qualcomm and other third parties to use while developing software support for features. Subjectively it’s thinner and more svelte than the APQ8064 MDP/T we saw last year, but as always OEMs will have the final control over industrial design and what features they choose to expose. Display is 1080p on the tablet and 720p on the phone, a bit low considering the resolutions handset and tablet markers are going for (at least 1080p on phone and WQXGA on tablets) so keep that in mind when looking at on-screen results from benchmarks.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Mobile Development Platform Tablet
  MSM8974 MDP/T
SoC MSM8974 Snapdragon 800
CPU 4x Krait 400 at 2.3 GHz
GPU Adreno 330 at 450 MHz
RAM 2GB 2x32 LPDDR3 800 MHz
NAND 32 GB eMMC 4.5
Cameras 12 MP with flash (rear), 2 MP (front)
Display 11.6-inch 1080p
I/O USB 3.0, microHDMI, microSD, 3.5mm headset
OS Android 4.2

Snapdragon 800, nee MSM8974 is built on TSMC’s 28nm HPM (High Performance for Mobile) HK-MG, as opposed to 28nm LP polysilicon (low power). The result are higher clocks for CPU, from 1.5–1.7 GHz on Krait 200–300 which was 28nm LP, to 2.2–2.3 GHz on Krait 400 on 28nm HPM. The jump between Krait 200 and Krait 300 brought higher clocks and also a jump in IPC, this time around Krait 400 is essentially a Krait 300 implemented on 28nm HPM, which means some relayout. There’s also a faster L2 cache on Krait 400.

These are final clocks on MSM8974 – Krait 400 runs its four cores at up to 2.3 GHz, though some lots will come at 2.2 GHz. GPU on MSM8974 is Adreno 330 which runs at 450 MHz and brings some architectural improvements over Adreno 320.

On the video side, MSM8974 is capable of encoding UHD 4K (3840 x 2160) 30 FPS video at up to 120 Mbps H.264 High Profile, and is capable of playing back the same file. Qualcomm had a demo going showing this mirrored on the latest Sony 4K UHD TV as well over microHDMI. I recorded a video sample and took a copy for your perusal and onto YouTube. True to their word the video I grabbed is 120 Mbps and 3840 x 2160, framerate was just over 25 FPS but I'm not sure if the demo was setup for 30 FPS capture. MSM8974 has the hardware encoder for H.264 but not HEVC H.265, that's implemented in software. 

Snapdragon 800 should begin popping up in phones and tablets fall 2013. Anyhow let's take a look at MSM8974 performance. 

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  • Krysto - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    "The overall graphics score from Adreno is amazing. We're looking at almost 2x the next fastest contender here, the Adreno 320 based Snapdragon 600."

    Why is that so amazing? Adreno 320 came out first last fall, which is about a year before S800 with Adreno 330 comes out. Are you saying you're surprised mobile GPU's can double in performance every 12 months?
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  • nunomoreira10 - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    On the same process nod, hell yeah Reply
  • Aenean144 - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    Not exactly the same process node, and we don't know TDP yet. Reply
  • richworks - Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - link

    please excuse my ignorance but how is TDP related to the process node? Reply
  • dishayu - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    In the great equalizer charts, can someone please explain how GeForce 8500 manages to outperform the 7900 GTX in DXBenchmark 2.7? The 8500 had similar performance to a 7600GS from what i remember. Reply
  • nunomoreira10 - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    Uniform shaders i believe Reply
  • Ryan Smith - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    Unified rather than uniform, but yes. We did an article in April looking at the issue in greater depth: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6877/the-great-equal... Reply
  • Speedfriend - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    Where will the new generation Atom show up in the list? As I understand it, it will have graphics comparable to the HD4000 in the Ivy Bridge, so in theory it should outperform this Qualcomm chip? Reply
  • psychobriggsy - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    No, it will have graphics based upon the HD4000 architecture - but it will have fewer units and run at a lower speed, in order to attain TDP requirements. Reply
  • FwFred - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    The number of EUs does not directly tie to TDP. See HD5000 vs HD5100. The clock speed is important, and wider but slower is more efficient. Reply

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